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PDheader:1986-12-04 12:00:00-08:00 f34ca1f3e9045d19035456832e062ad5 ∂04-Dec-86 1200 REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU [John Reuling <Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU>: Navajo info] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 4 Dec 86 12:00:36 PST Date: Thu 4 Dec 86 11:58:42-PST From: Stuart Reges <REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [John Reuling <Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU>: Navajo info] To: les@Score.Stanford.EDU Office: CS-TAC 22, 723-9798 Message-ID: <12260168810.32.REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Here is the list of students whose charges probably should be transferred elsewhere. At least one should stay charged to the department's accounts. He is Ali Ozer who does administrative programming for John. --------------- Mail-From: REULING created at 4-Dec-86 09:39:48 Date: Thu 4 Dec 86 09:39:48-PST From: John Reuling <Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Navajo info To: reges@Score.Stanford.EDU Office: Margaret Jacks Hall 030c, Stanford; 415/725-5555 Message-ID: <12260143522.32.REULING@Score.Stanford.EDU> Students Billed to 1-DMA001, 1-DMA601, or 1-DMA612: -------------------------------------------------- Adams, Lia Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Reid Relation: CS PhD Student Account: 1-DMA612 LIA@SU-AI Baudinet, Marianne J. Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Manna Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA601 baudinet@SU-NAVAJO Beigel, Richard Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Gill Relation: CS Masters Alumni Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Interest in an Academic Career Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA601 RJB@SU-AI Davis, Helen Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Hennessy Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 davis@SU-NAVAJO Dixon, Michael D. Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Mayr Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA601 dixon@SU-NAVAJO Edozien, Joseph Title: MSAI Student Program: MSAI Advisor: Buchanan Relation: CS Masters (AI) Student Relation: Knowledge Systems Laboratory Account: 1-DMA612 EDOZIEN@SU-SCORE Fraley, Christina Title: PhD student Program: PHD Advisor: Oliger Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA601 CXF@SU-AI Gray, Cary G. Title: Ph.D Student Program: PHD Advisor: Cheriton Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Interest in an Academic Career Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 CGG@SU-AI Hall, Keith Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Wiederhold Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Relation: Research Assistant Relation: Teaching Assistant Account: 1-DMA612 HALL@SU-SCORE Account: 1-DMA612 KAH@SU-AI Holstege, Mary A. Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Winograd Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 MAH@SU-AI Huggins, Katherine Title: MS student Program: MSCS Advisor: Manna Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: Research Assistant Account: 1-DMA612 CRH@SU-AI Larrabee, Tracy Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Hennessy Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA601 TLL@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA601 TRACY@SU-SCORE Account: 1-DMA601 tracy@SU-NAVAJO Ozer, Ali T. Title: EE/CS Coterm Student, Programmer Program: MSCS Advisor: Guibas Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: Mailed Score Charges Relation: Office Holder Relation: Pedit Meta Maintainer Relation: Research Assistant Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA612 ALI@SU-SCORE Account: 1-DMA612 ATO@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA612 ali@SU-NAVAJO Ries, Michael R. Title: MS Student Program: MSCS Advisor: Ullman Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: Honors Cooperative Student Account: 1-DMA612 RIES@SU-SCORE Roach, Kelly Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Mayr Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 ROACH@SU-SCORE Roy, Shaibal Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Mayr Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Relation: Research Assistant Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA612 ROY@SU-AI Russell, Stuart J. Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Genesereth Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Interest in an Academic Career Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 SID@SU-AI Schulman, Bob Program: MSCS Advisor: Wiederhold Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA612 BMS@SU-AI Shieber, Stuart Title: PhD Student (Honors Coop) Program: PHD Advisor: Winograd Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Honors Cooperative Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 SMS@SU-AI Shreve, Dorothy E. Title: MS Student Program: MSCS Advisor: Oliger Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: Honors Cooperative Student Account: 1-DMA612 SHREVE@SU-SCORE Silverstein, Glenn Title: CSMS Student Program: MSCS Advisor: Winograd Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: Honors Cooperative Student Account: 1-DMA612 SILVERSTEIN@SU-SCORE Spreitzer, Mike Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Hennessy Relation: CS PhD Student Account: 1-DMA612 MMS@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA612 mjs@SU-NAVAJO Stolfi, Jorge Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Guibas Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 STO@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA612 STOLFI@SU-SCORE Tuminaro, Ray Title: Duke of New Jersey Program: PHD Advisor: Mayr Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Interest in an Academic Career Relation: Office Holder Relation: Research Assistant Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA612 tuminaro@SU-NAVAJO ------- -------

PDheader:1987-01-02 01:50:00-08:00 8568ba4713bacb68904a64c24d82d66f ∂02-Jan-87 0150 LES CSD-CF Cost Center Rates To: su-computers@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, facil@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

I am pleased to announce a further reduction in CSD-CF computer rates effective yesterday (January 1), as shown below. However, this price decrease is not attributable to virtuous administration -- it is the result of stomping on a bug in the rate calculations. Les Earnest CSD-CF Director Pro Tem --------------------------------------------------------------------- A Time B Time C Time Weekday hours 8:00-17:59 18:00-23:59 0:00-7:59 Weekend hours 13:00-17:59 18:00-12:59 Rates Full 2/3 of A rate 1/3 of A rate JEEVES Fileserver Account charge 5.00/month Disk space 1.08/megabit-mo.* NAVAJO Computer Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time .72/minute .48/minute .24/minute Disk space 1.18/megabit-mo.* LABREA Archive Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 1.44/minute .96/minute .48/minute Disk space .44/megabit-mo.* SAIL & SCORE Computers Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 2.22/minute 1.48/minute .74/minute Disk space 1.99/megabit-mo.* Printers DOVERs .09/page Imagen/Apple .09/page Boise .07/page Phototypsetter Page charges 4.50/page Ethernet Maintenance Workstations 30.00/month & minis Mainframes & 300.00/month bridges SUSHI Computer Maintenance and Depreciation DEC-20 9,865.00/month Computer Maintenance Basic VAX 450.00/month RA81 Disk Drive 100.00/month Ken. 9300 Tape 200.00/month Fujitsu M2351 Disk 50.00/month TU78 100.00/month CDC 9766 Contrl. 100.00/month Emulex SC758 66.00/month 8 line term. MUX 16.00/month ---------- * Note that a "megabit" is precisely 1,000,000 bits. Storage is allocated in blocks whose size is system-dependent.

PDheader:1987-01-05 20:22:00-08:00 575add1346ea86839ab1949dbfec8341 ∂05-Jan-87 2022 LES New Cost Centers To: CSD@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

In order to more fairly distribute the cost of CSD-CF computer services, certain services that have been free in the past will now be charged for, as discussed below. This is accompanied by a reduction in the usage charges for existing cost centers. See the SU-COMPUTERS bboard for a full list of the new rates. LaBrea, which has operated as a free archival file service in the past, will now become a cost center. Its disk storage rates are substantially lower than those of other systems, however. Any users who wish to continue using LaBrea must have their account manager send their Stanford account number to Lynn Gotelli (Gotelli@Score). Any existing accounts for which this has not been done by January 9 will be frozen. The new Sun fileserver called JEEVES also becomes a cost center, but with charges only for disk storage. Users who wish to run Unix on the departmental Sun workstations must open accounts on JEEVES in the same way as for LaBrea. In addition, charges will now be made for ethernet connections within Jacks Hall at the rate of $30/month for workstations and minis and $300/month for mainframes.

PDheader:1987-01-05 20:31:00-08:00 9e2ada50f896fb88dffc64e8eea5f34e ∂05-Jan-87 2031 CAB speculative poetry typography To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: ruggles@COYOTE.STANFORD.EDU, CAB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

I think it's worth permitting Lynn Ruggles to use TeX to typeset the text of a book of "speculative" and experimental poetry for a non-stanford client. I think it has a valid Stanford-related research content in the following ways: 1) It tests the efficacy of TeX for unusual typographic problems; 2) It tests the process of converting raster fonts from a non-Metafont format to Metafont GF format and subsequent usage on the APS. 3) It poses an interesting problem of how an experienced book designer who knows nothing of computers can communicate with an experienced TeX user and coomputer science graduate student to achieve a useful work of typography. Often our digital type research has neglected to take real-world needs in account. 4) It certainly doesn't involve profit in the usual sense of the word, though the publishers don't have true non-profit institutional status. 5) Stanford will be reimbursed for all computer time and other expenses. (Is there an acceptable way to do this under the new rules? I don't intend to fund it through my unrestricted funds account, unless that is the only way, in which case my account would have to be reimbursed.) If this seems reasonable to you, I'll tell Lynn it's ok to go ahead. If you think it's not reasonable, I'll tell her it's not ok. --Chuck

PDheader:1987-01-05 20:45:00-08:00 bbec255fadbf6d0f281150a90af04faa ∂05-Jan-87 2045 LES re: speculative poetry typography To: CAB [In reply to message rcvd 05-Jan-87 20:31-PT.]

The proposed project rather clearly does not fit any of the four loopholes in the departmental policy for outside users, so the only plausible basis for acceptance would be as work performed "by Stanford employees, visiting scholars and students in direct support of teaching, research and administrative needs of the University." Thus, in order for it to qualify, Lynn would have to have some kind of ongoing official relationship with Stanford and you would have to assert that this project is part of her research program (or yours). If you can comfortably leap through that hoop, then I see no problem. Les

PDheader:1987-01-06 14:28:00-08:00 0193a8d9752fadc8ec75c5557bdc6e66 ∂06-Jan-87 1428 WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU Labrea charges Received: from CSLI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 6 Jan 87 14:28:15 PST Date: Tue 6 Jan 87 14:21:00-PST From: Terry Winograd <WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Labrea charges To: joyce, bscott@score,les@sail Cc: WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU

As of this week, Labrea (a VAX file server in MJH) will start charging for file space. I have removed all of my files to CSLI servers, but would like to keep the account open for emergencies. I back up my local workstation files to RUSSELL, but on the (hopefully rare) occasions when it is down, it is useful to do a temporary backup to another VAX-based server. In that case there would be only a few files (those generated during the RUSSELL downtime) and they would be removed as soon as russell comes back up. My other CSD/CF charges are being covered by the CS department since they are primarily teaching-related and my research computing and storage is all done on the workstation and the CSLI machines. It would probably simplify things to include this account under that arrangement. Since I plan minimal use, it should not add much (hopefully none). I would be glad to monitor it and change the arrangment if that turns out not to be the case. Thanks. --t

PDheader:1987-01-06 17:14:00-08:00 2cb428eee6ec6dd8a312990c31b24bb6 ∂06-Jan-87 1714 CAB speculative poetry

Since the project doesn't fit any of the allowable definitions, I have requested Lynn to cancel it and notify the parties. Thanks for your advice. There are more important things to spend departmental time on, like questions of space allocation in Cedar Hall. --C.

PDheader:1987-01-07 17:38:00-08:00 8b1b20be9db1c4e733bdaba14d641cfe ∂07-Jan-87 1738 LES LaBrea Account To: Snoeyink@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, BScott@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

In response to your message to Lynn Gotelli, given that you have an account on Sushi, there would seem to be no reason to also have one on LaBrea. The department declines to pick up the bills for the use of cost center machines by students unless such use is required for an unsponsored research program, in which case a request should be made through the individual's research supervisor. Les Earnest

PDheader:1987-01-12 11:41:00-08:00 c218a26adf17b36381caef02848dc4ea ∂12-Jan-87 1141 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU [Jamison R. Gray <JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>: New account on Score needed] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 12 Jan 87 11:40:57 PST Date: Mon 12 Jan 87 11:38:02-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Jamison R. Gray <JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>: New account on Score needed] To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12270388661.17.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I guess this request falls into category 1 for an outside user computer account.....Thanks, Lynn --------------- Return-Path: <JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Received: from Sushi.Stanford.EDU by SU-SCORE.ARPA with TCP; Fri 9 Jan 87 17:58:14-PST Date: Fri 9 Jan 87 17:58:03-PST From: Jamison R. Gray <JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: New account on Score needed To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: nilsson@Score.Stanford.EDU, jgray@Sushi.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12269671411.7.JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> I'm sending this on behalf of Nils Nilsson, who's juggling too many things in the air right now: Lynn, We need an account set up on Score for the Morgan Kaufman publishing company, for them to work on designing Nils' and Mike Genesereth's forthcoming new book. Morgan Kaufman will pay the bills. They'll need a disk allocation of about 5000 pages, in order to be able to hold all the files associated with typesetting the book. I suppose "Morgan" or "Morgan-Kaufman" would be good account names, or MK if that's acceptable. Nils will sign whatever forms are necessary, if you'll just send them to him. Thank you, --Jamie ------- -------

PDheader:1987-01-17 19:31:00-08:00 c92f06b4819237d3d9c11dc1c0a955c4 ∂17-Jan-87 1931 LES CSD-CF Pricing Policies and New Rates To: Faculty@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

This message discusses: (1) the "unbusinesslike" pricing policies of CSD-CF and (2) new rates for CSD-CF computer services that were announced at the end of December. For those of you who read the SU-COMPUTERS bboard, this material has already appeared there. Pricing Policies Some people were distressed by the "unbusinesslike" retroactive increase in CSD-CF computer charges that were imposed late last summer. The direct cause of that surcharge was that a manager here neglected to track income against budget and by the time we discovered this blunder it was too late to make a graceful adjustment in rates. While the management has changed, I am afraid that we cannot guarantee that CSD-CF will always be operated in a businesslike way in the future for the simple reason that it is not a business. If it _were_ a business, then we would set prices so as to be price- competitive in the market -- at substantially higher rates than are now charged. If income ran below expectations, we would then either alter our marketing plan or adjust our rates with the expectation of making money in the future, or decide to get out of the business. In fact, CSD-CF operates as a cost center under the regulations and supervision of the federal government and is not permitted to make a profit. Under these guidelines, if cost center income is within 5% of expenses at the end of a fiscal year (August 31), the difference is carried forward into the following year's cost center budget. If income exceeds costs by more than 5% at the end of the year, then the entire excess is immediately distributed as dividends to all users. If there is a loss of more than 5%, the Computer Science Department has the honor of eating it -- a genuine "no-win" situation. Inasmuch as there are very few ways to make money within a nonprofit corporation such as Stanford, such losses would have to be paid from Computer Science gift funds. We are reluctant to use these limited and valuable funds in that way. The primary goal of CSD-CF is to provide computer services essential to the Department's research, teaching and administrative needs, while keeping expenses as low as possible and adjusting service fees as necessary to stay within the 5% range. Any changes in utilization patterns, catastrophic equipment failures, or other unforseen events that put the balance outside this range will result in rate changes, retroactive if necessary but in no case going back beyond the beginning of the fiscal year (September 1). We recognize that retroactive changes cause serious budgeting problems for our users and we will do our best to avoid them. While manufacturers' donations, educational discounts, and access to government-supplied equipment tend to keep our costs low, we have little direct control over prices: they are determined by the interaction between costs and usage rates. These prices are generally much lower than commercial rates; any users who do not believe this are encouraged to shop around. While the prices are low, they also may fluctuate unpredictably. In view of the environment in which our cost centers operate, when we are accused of being unbusinesslike we are likely to smile and say "Yes, aren't you glad!" New Rates New rates are given below for CSD-CF computer services that are effective January 1, pending approval. These rates are generally a bit lower than those currently in effect because of two principal factors. 1. CSD-CF has begun charging research contracts directly for more of of the ancillary services that it provides, reducing the costs to be recovered from computer charges. 2. Certain computer services that have been free in the past will now be charged for. For example, charges will now be made for ethernet connections within Jacks Hall at the rate of $30/month for workstations and minis and $300/month for mainframes. NAVAJO prime CPU time charges are being reduced from $1.39 to $.72 per minute. SAIL and SCORE prime CPU rates change from $2.80 to $2.22 per minute. In order to make charges more closely model costs, all active computer accounts will be charged a monthly fee of $5.00 to partially cover accounting and billing costs. LaBrea has operated as a free archival file service in the past but will now become a cost center. Its disk storage rates are substantially lower than those of other systems, however. Any users who wish to continue using LaBrea must have their account manager send their Stanford account number to Lynn Gotelli (Gotelli@Score). Any existing accounts for which this has not been done have been frozen. Our new Sun fileserver called JEEVES also becomes a cost center, but with charges only for disk storage. Users who wish to run Unix on the departmental Sun workstations must open accounts on JEEVES in the same way as for LaBrea. Les Earnest CSD-CF Director Pro Tem Computer Science Department Computer Facility Cost Center Rates Beginning January 1, 1987 A Time B Time C Time A Time B Time C Time Total Expense Weekday hours 8:00-17:59 18:00-23:59 0:00-7:59 Weekend hours 13:00-17:59 18:00-12:59 Rates Full 2/3 of A rate 1/3 of A rate JEEVES Fileserver (Sun-3/Unix) Account charge 5.00/month Disk space 1.08/megabit-mo.* NAVAJO Computer (DEC VAX-780/Unix) Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time .72/minute .48/minute .24/minute Disk space 1.18/megabit-mo.* LABREA Archive (DEC VAX-750/Unix) Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 1.44/minute .96/minute .48/minute Disk space .44/megabit-mo.* SAIL (DEC-10/Waits) & SCORE (DEC-20/TOPS-20) Computers Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 2.22/minute 1.48/minute .74/minute Disk space 1.99/megabit-mo.* ---------- * Note that a "megabit" is precisely 1,000,000 bits. Storage is allocated in blocks whose size is system-dependent. ---------- Printers Dovers .09/page Imagen/Apple .09/page Boise .07/page Phototypsetter Page charges 4.50/page Ethernet Maintenance Workstations 30.00/month & minis Mainframes & 300.00/month bridges SUSHI Computer (DEC-20/TOPS-20) maintenance and depreciation DEC-20 8,420.00/month VAX-750 Computer Maintenance Basic VAX-750 450.00/month RA81 Disk Drive 100.00/month Ken. 9300 Tape 200.00/month Fujitsu M2351 Disk 50.00/month TU78 100.00/month CDC 9766 Contrl. 100.00/month Emulex SC758 66.00/month 8 line term. MUX 16.00/month

PDheader:1987-01-18 19:30:00-08:00 d62f0cc4dc0d0b2fdd595187375bc30d ∂18-Jan-87 1930 CAB computer account for typesetting To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: LER@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, CAB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

According to Lynn Ruggles, the SCORE account she used for typesetting the book for CSLI was that of one of the book's authors, with access made available to her by permission of the author. The account was neither mine nor DEK's. She affirms that, in accordance with a vow previously made to you, she will not use my account for purposes other than work authorized by me. Can we take her at her word and let her finish her dissertation in peace? --Chuck

PDheader:1987-01-20 07:59:00-08:00 fe484ca9366b4e8e8d96ffb1a375811c ∂20-Jan-87 0759 BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Portia Printing & Reuling Terminal Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 20 Jan 87 07:59:41 PST Date: Tue 20 Jan 87 07:56:11-PST From: Betty Scott <BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Portia Printing & Reuling Terminal To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Fri 16 Jan 87 17:46:00-PST Message-ID: <12272445427.12.BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

John Reuling's printing charges should be charged to 1-DMA601. I guess I think that in-house terminal relocation expense should be assumed by CSD-CF. If this can't be done, then it should also be charged to 1-DMA601 Betty -------

PDheader:1987-01-20 11:39:00-08:00 0d08c2586f177e8af7c0e46e952fbf79 ∂20-Jan-87 1139 LES Reuling charges To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Please charge as indicated below. I explained to Betty that we do charge for all terminal or worstation relocations that involve rewiring. -Les

PDheader:1987-01-20 14:14:00-08:00 36b91883be821775aae2c33de3f7fe87 ∂20-Jan-87 1414 WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU Computer charges Received: from CSLI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 20 Jan 87 14:10:55 PST Date: Tue 20 Jan 87 14:03:00-PST From: Terry Winograd <WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Computer charges To: bscott@score,les@sail,joyce, wasow,me@sail Cc: WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU

Having finally received and read through the new CSD/CF pricing structure, there is one other item to settle. Although Turing is my major computer, I have maintained minimal accounts on SCORE and SAIL and was planning to have one on Labrea. Since these will cost something even when I don't use them, I would like to close my SAIL account and close (if that isn't already the case) the Labrea one. CSD was paying for these costs since they were related to departmental use, but there doesn't seem to be a need for them. I assume CSD will continue to pay for the SCORE account (which will be at or close to the basic $5/mo level, since I do not store files there or use it except for occasional needs) and for incidental Dover use (since I use the Xerox printer for most of my printing). Under my current understanding, the Ethernet hookup charges for the Dandelion workstations should be the only charges billed by CSD/CF to CSLI.--t

PDheader:1987-01-20 14:50:00-08:00 ae5b137da330bcf9b0e6dd0c9d621cd6 ∂20-Jan-87 1450 LES re: Computer charges To: WINOGRAD@CSLI.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, BScott@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Tue 20 Jan 87 14:03:00-PST.]

For accounts that are totally inactive and have no files, there is no charge of any kind. Thus, there will be bills generated only for those months when you log in on Score as long as the file area is empty. By a copy of this message, I request that Lynn Gotelli close your SAIL account. Your LaBrea account will remain closed, per your request. -Les

PDheader:1987-01-21 16:11:00-08:00 e5a593776c23b5bf9e8f656ecf7ca58a ∂21-Jan-87 1611 LES re: computer account for typesetting To: CAB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: LER@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message from CAB rcvd 18-Jan-87 19:30-PT.]

Your closing remark is off-target. I do not relish the role of policeman and would love to leave Lynn in peace to finish her dissertation, but her business activities keep raising questions that must be answered. In this case, as I explained in my earlier note, CSLI questioned Lynn Gotelli about the propriety of her bill. Your explanation that Lynn R. used the account of an unnamed author (Dikran?) does not make me feel a lot better. CSD-CF computer accounts are not supposed to be shared, as stated on the application form above the signature line. Of course, our registration procedures are rather loose and not everyone has signed the form. I won't bother to check in this case. I am satisfied that nothing very bad has happened, but the next time I get bugged you will probably hear from me again. Les

PDheader:1987-01-22 08:50:00-08:00 e4ff3957200fa07a6122f9b6935687d2 ∂22-Jan-87 0850 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU [Dick Gabriel <RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: FTL Account ] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 22 Jan 87 08:50:26 PST Date: Thu 22 Jan 87 08:46:53-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Dick Gabriel <RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: FTL Account ] To: Les@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12272978946.25.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

This account must fall in the category of "others may be granted access to computers if it is required in support of a contract with Stanford or for research collaboration with a Stanford employee or visiting scholar" ? Thanks, Lynn --------------- Return-Path: <RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Received: from SAIL.STANFORD.EDU by SU-SCORE.ARPA with TCP; Wed 21 Jan 87 08:59:22-PST Date: 21 Jan 87 0901 PST From: Dick Gabriel <RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: FTL Account To: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Lucid wants to open this account again - the fact that it was closed was a mistake on our part. Our controller is a little slow off the mark to get in touch with you, so I'm doing it. Please restore it as before and resume billing as before. -rpg- President, Lucid

PDheader:1987-01-22 10:23:00-08:00 c9ad1f45214eca45ec4ffc8ec0652db8 ∂22-Jan-87 1023 ruggles@coyote.stanford.edu re: computer account for typesetting Received: from COYOTE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 22 Jan 87 10:23:07 PST Received: by coyote.stanford.edu; Thu, 22 Jan 87 10:23:14 PST Date: Thu, 22 Jan 87 10:23:14 PST From: Lynn Ruggles <ruggles@coyote.stanford.edu> Subject: re: computer account for typesetting To: CAB@sail.stanford.edu, LES@sail.stanford.edu Cc: LER@sail.stanford.edu

About two weeks ago, Dikran Karagueusian came to me with a typesetting problem. He had a book he needed typeset within 5 days and Mike Cramer was unable to fix some font problems that Dikran was having. I agreed to help him out, but told him that I would need access to Score and that I could not use Chuck's account. He talked to one of the authors of the book, and got permission for me to use the author's account. I used the account to create the missing fonts and set up the files so that Mike could then typeset the book. I do not consider this to be 'sharing' an account since it was done with the permission of the owner of the account, and all work done on the account by me was for the sole purpose of typesetting the owner's book. Nor is it part of any 'business activities' since these were services that I provided at the express (and desperate) request of a Stanford employee. Dikran approached me since I was the only person here who now knows how to handle the font problems that he was having. It seems to me that what you should be concerned with is the fact that the people you have hired to run the services provided by CSD cannot handle the job by themselves and must seek outside help. If Mike Cramer knew more about the APS machine and the font files, none of my assistance would be necessary. -Lynn

PDheader:1987-01-22 10:30:00-08:00 554c62afa4ee8bd2090e8f3ff6bc46a5 ∂22-Jan-87 1030 CAB same song, another verse To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: LER@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, CAB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

Why doesn't CSD/CF just hire Lynn Ruggles to do typesetting? It would make things simpler and more official. As it is now, many Stanford employees and professors now ask Lynn to do typesetting work, but there is always doubt about her official capacity, authorization, etc. She actually has to work twice as hard, since she both does the typesetting and then later "justifies" it (excuse the pun).

PDheader:1987-01-22 17:40:00-08:00 3c831df4f00ff336c12c5b5c8e82a089 ∂22-Jan-87 1740 LES re: computer account for typesetting To: ruggles@COYOTE.STANFORD.EDU CC: CAB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Thu, 22 Jan 87 10:23:14 PST.]

Sorry to have disturbed you. In fact, you did that work as an independent contractor rather than as a Stanford employee, so it really was a business activity. Also, no one may give permission for someone else to use their Score account -- a new account should be opened -- but in this case it is not a big deal. Please understand that we are not trying to persecute you. I find that a large number of business activities are making inappropriate use of CSD-CF facilities and we are actively engaged in flushing them. Most will be gone by the end of January. If you wish to avoid being questioned in the future, please let me know in advance of any independent contracting work you are undertaking on CSD-CF machines. A short message will do. Les

PDheader:1987-01-22 18:04:00-08:00 34102d640644df7dccf404137682db69 ∂22-Jan-87 1804 LES re: same song, another verse To: CAB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: LER@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message rcvd 22-Jan-87 10:30-PT.]

Having Lynn do such work for Stanford is reasonable and there are fairly simple procedures for taking short-term employment, so I suggest that she do it that way for whoever needs it. CSD-CF is not in the typesetting business except as a provider of computer and APS time, so it should not be the employer.

PDheader:1987-01-23 12:49:00-08:00 192edff35ce255e6adc3fc768ed36a94 ∂23-Jan-87 1249 LES SAIL accounts To: RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Do you want the SAIL account for Qlisp work or for something else? These accounts are to be used by only one person, so we also need a name. It is for LGD's work on writing the object-oriented programming specification for X3J13 (ANSI). She needs to TEX and DOVER documents and does not want to burden Gio with distinguishing her duties. -rpg-

PDheader:1987-01-23 13:06:00-08:00 ed3ff0764a5faedf325e0c429e540651 ∂23-Jan-87 1306 RPG To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

PDheader:1987-01-23 14:27:00-08:00 0296534fdeaf8b2eb9f55f727427d3e6 ∂23-Jan-87 1427 LES re: [Martin Frost <ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: new SAIL account ] To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Thu 22 Jan 87 09:04:49-PST.]

I do not see a need to charge the Pony for computer time, given that it is providing a general service, much like other utility services for which we do not charge.

PDheader:1987-01-23 15:12:00-08:00 edcd842a9f191172ff3db9dbd3d371d3 ∂23-Jan-87 1512 LES LGD's account To: RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message rcvd 23-Jan-87 13:06-PT.]

Are you offering to pay her bills or are you inviting CSD to pay?

PDheader:1987-01-23 15:12:01-08:00 2618e316ccd9ebfac95d6626e9c5c29a ∂23-Jan-87 1512 LES LGD's account To: RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message rcvd 23-Jan-87 13:06-PT.]

Are you offering to pay her bills or are you inviting CSD to pay? I'm not doing either. I'm proposing you (re)set up the FTL for LGD to use so that Lucid can pay for the work she does for us that is more conveniently done on SAIL that at Lucid. She happens to have a SAIL account now that Gio pays for, but that's an irrelvancy. The work I want her to do is for ANSI and is public domain - Lucid is donating time. Currently we move files from a public file at SAIL to Lucid, edit it here, TEX it here, print it here, and ship it back. I want her to be able to edit it there, TEX it there, and print it there. -rpg-

PDheader:1987-01-23 17:54:00-08:00 ddf1cf26d0633d9937081e6d1572edf3 ∂23-Jan-87 1754 RPG To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

PDheader:1987-01-24 13:49:00-08:00 a626df1b342ae3f2861b827607baa80b ∂24-Jan-87 1349 RPG Crossed Wires I thought you were suggesting that the alternatives were:

1) Lucid pays for the account named ``LGD'' 2) RPG invites CSD to pay for the account named ``LGD'' under which LGD will do Lucid work, hence mooching. LGD does thesis work for Gio, which I don't want to pay for, hence number 1; I don't think I'm crafty enough to get you fall for number 2. I'll ask Linda whether she can handle Sushi. The documents we edit are on SAIL, because people are used to Common Lisp stuff being there. If she can handle using Sushi, that will be fine. I'll get back to you on this. -rpg-

PDheader:1987-01-26 13:11:00-08:00 d5fd74d0aa40902b059876223a964244 ∂26-Jan-87 1311 JOHNMARK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU Archiving info-mac on labrea Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 26 Jan 87 13:11:33 PST Date: Mon 26 Jan 87 13:07:38-PST From: John Mark Agosta <JOHNMARK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Archiving info-mac on labrea To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12274074991.28.JOHNMARK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Les - We'd like to archive info-mac digests, and some of the software that has been made available for ftp on labrea. This seems to make sense, because though sumex has been gracious in hosting the bboard, we've started to clutter up the disk space we have - and labrea has been the resting place of other Stanford bboards. There are 15k pages in info-mac on sumex, less than half, so roughly - about 10Mbytes eventually worth saving. We are pruning the current directory to cut out most of the dross; that with some projected growth is how I get the estimate. The expense for the labrea account, now that CSD is charging would run about $10 a month, according to posted charges. We don't have a sponsor - so either someone in authority in CSD could decide this is worthwhile to have, at CSD's expense, or we can look elsewhere. Though the bboard isn't funded, we could likely find some if we had to. Can you tell us if CSD would pay for the labrea account? Once that is resolved, can you get us permission to get the account? Truly - John Mark Agosta ------- -------

PDheader:1987-01-27 16:31:00-08:00 2b6a2b70485f651b972d2cd80c89d899 ∂27-Jan-87 1631 LES Wade Ellis account To: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

He visited today and asked for an extension to complete work-in-progress on the grounds that the Computer Modern fonts that they are using are not commercially available yet. I told him that I expect them to be available through both AMS and Arbortext within two months and would agree to their continuing to use their account here till the end of March.

PDheader:1987-01-28 22:27:00-08:00 eb539107dc5956593e9761fb038e03c9 ∂28-Jan-87 2227 JVC@Score.Stanford.EDU my score account Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 28 Jan 87 22:24:38 PST Date: Wed 28 Jan 87 22:19:47-PST From: Janet Coursey <JVC@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: my score account To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: coursey@KESTREL.ARPA Message-ID: <12274699793.21.JVC@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, We're (kestrel) closing out my Score account. I told some mailing lists already but not all. Can you please have mail forwading established from jvc@score ---> coursey@kestrel for some time? Thank you, Janet -------

PDheader:1987-01-29 10:37:00-08:00 40ec728e00707a0f6f6709c7b62f4326 ∂29-Jan-87 1037 LES Mail Forwarding To: jvc@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: billw@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Sure.

PDheader:1987-02-02 20:19:00-08:00 e79df153ecb478a1366a5fac6520c1c6 ∂02-Feb-87 2019 LES Sail Account To: JJC I received your written note today but am left with a question:

what are you using the computer for an how does this activity mesh with the departmental policy on outside use of computers? In particular, which of the four "loopholes" do you think fits your work?

PDheader:1987-02-02 20:19:01-08:00 0c4b3240a8fabc83d491530249085e5d ∂02-Feb-87 2019 LES Sail Account I received your written note today but am left with a question:

what are you using the computer for an how does this activity mesh with the departmental policy on outside use of computers? In particular, which of the four "loopholes" do you think fits your work? Les, I no longer have your letter in front of me. I'll tell you what I use SAIL for and I hope that you judge it falls in one or two of your categories. First of all, my usage is quite limited as you will note if you check out my charges over the last 3 months. Usage is in three categories: 1) I collaborate with a few of the robotics people at Stanford, notably Prof. Roth in ME, and Dr. O. Khatib in the Cedar Hall group. This is research collaboration, but I must admit, quite loose and not a part an any contract as such, and I am not funded through them in any way. 2) I have written a text book ("Introduction to Robotics: Mechanics and Control" published by Addison-Wesley, 1986). This book was done while I was a student at stanford, and was composed on Sail, with a first pass of typesetting done by myself using TEX (the publisher had a compositor re-TEX it elsewhere). The book says "John Craig, Stanford University" on it, and so has generated electronic and physical mail coming to me at Stanford. I also keep the book on line, and when I ever find time, a second edition is scheduled, and I would like to make the editing changes using SAIL. Also (in case it matters, and in all modesty) the book is now the number 1 text in the country having been adopted at over 60 universities (which we think is about 60% of the market) and so is a giant success, and has made me famous in circles. Hence, perhaps it could be argued that some Stanford affiliation is beneficial to Stanford as well, although I know this is mighty presumptuous. But I do feel an allegiance to good ol' SU, and after watching the once-top robotics group take a beating under TOB's continued mismanagement, I have been proud to do my small part in helping to restore a small modicom of luster to the place. This may all be irrelevant, but I think I recall one of your 4 loopholes sounding like a hazy "friends of SU" possibility. 3) I use SAIL like everyone else for mail and Arpanet access. And of course in this, it is not just for fun, but generally for contact with robotics research types (these people are not always so fun to talk to anyway!). For example, I am a visiting associate at Cal Tech, and I use arpanet to stay in contact with them between my visits. Thanks for your consideration. Regards, John Craig

PDheader:1987-02-04 21:54:00-08:00 eebd9e5d322d04858330cdcdef76fd3b ∂04-Feb-87 2154 RPG FTL To: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

What's the story here with the SAIL FTL account? It's on and it's off. This is starting to hamper important, deadline-sensitive work. Please set this account up so Linda can use it. If you think, ``well, it's just RPG, let's wait until someone at Lucid with authority speaks,'' remember, I'm Lucid's president. Anyone you talk to there works for me. If they tell you a story any different from the fact we need this account and I've authorized payment for it, tell me and don't believe it. -rpg-

PDheader:1987-02-05 16:36:00-08:00 392a18bdc434bf9a8f31f40400b99cae ∂05-Feb-87 1636 LES Off-campus users To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

We are now past the deadline for all off-campus users to have contacted me regarding their continuing use of CSD-CF facilities. Only a few have been approved for continuing access and one group was extended temporarily. In any case, you already know about those. I was recently contacted by John Craig (JJC@Sail), after the deadline, but his note did not give enough information for me to make a judgement about the appropriateness of his continuing. I sent him an email message requesting more information. If we do not hear from him again by Feb. 15, his account should be suspended then. As for the rest of them, please suspend their accounts now, if you haven't already. Pat Devaney called a few minutes ago grumbling about the Rockwell contract. I had to confess that I had not seen it, but should have. From the parts that she read to me over the phone, it sounds as though we should not sign it. She is sending it back to me. I mentioned this to Nils and he said that he would try to make different arrangments, such as getting Rockwell to supplement his research contract so as to provide the necessary computer support.

PDheader:1987-02-06 16:23:00-08:00 ce09526e816ec5d25fec6b39e81e9bff ∂06-Feb-87 1623 GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 6 Feb 87 16:22:05 PST Date: Fri 6 Feb 87 16:07:41-PST From: Gene H. Golub <GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Accounts To: les@Score.Stanford.EDU Phone: 415/723-3124 Message-ID: <12276991352.52.GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I asked that the accounts on Navajo be limited to $100 for my visitors. This did not happen in January. What happened? Gene -------

PDheader:1987-02-06 17:04:00-08:00 293e38171bd4587f24cac8b10f7a3489 ∂06-Feb-87 1704 LES re: Accounts To: GOLUB@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 6 Feb 87 16:07:41-PST.]

Gene, As Lynn Gotelli explained a month or two ago when you asked for account cost limits on Navajo, the existing software does not support that. You need to train your people to control themselves or you have to close their accounts. We clearly need to provide individual Navajo users with the ability to monitor their current charges as they can on Sail and Score, but it will take awhile to devlop that software. Les

PDheader:1987-02-11 10:45:00-08:00 a463a3e338fa24aa88523f65fb0644de ∂11-Feb-87 1045 REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU [John Reuling <Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU>: students on navajo] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 11 Feb 87 10:45:25 PST Date: Wed 11 Feb 87 10:44:22-PST From: Stuart Reges <REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [John Reuling <Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU>: students on navajo] To: les@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: nilsson@Score.Stanford.EDU Office: CS-TAC 22, 723-9798 Message-ID: <12278243213.54.REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, here is the current list of students on Navajo being charged to the department. This list isn't completely current, so recent account closures wouldn't be reflected in this list. As I mentioned earlier, there is no reason that these people couldn't be moved to Rocky and/or Portia. Ali should probably keep a minimal Navajo account so he can help fix printers, but John is talking to him to make sure his usage is minimal. --------------- Mail-From: REULING created at 11-Feb-87 09:44:32 Date: Wed 11 Feb 87 09:44:32-PST From: John Reuling <Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: students on navajo To: reges@Score.Stanford.EDU Office: Margaret Jacks Hall 030c, Stanford; 415/725-5555 Message-ID: <12278232320.29.REULING@Score.Stanford.EDU> Students Billed to 1-DMA001, 1-DMA601, or 1-DMA612: -------------------------------------------------- Baudinet, Marianne J. Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Manna Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA601 baudinet@SU-NAVAJO Davis, Helen Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Hennessy Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA612 davis@SU-NAVAJO Dixon, Michael D. Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Nilsson Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA601 dixon@SU-NAVAJO Larrabee, Tracy Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Hennessy Relation: CS PhD Student Relation: Office Holder Account: 1-DMA601 TLL@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA601 TRACY@SU-SCORE Account: 1-DMA601 tracy@SU-NAVAJO Ozer, Ali T. Title: EE/CS Coterm Student, Programmer Program: MSCS Advisor: Guibas Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: Mailed Score Charges Relation: Office Holder Relation: Pedit Meta Maintainer Relation: Research Assistant Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA612 ALI@SU-SCORE Account: 1-DMA612 ATO@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA612 ali@SU-NAVAJO Spreitzer, Mike Title: PhD Student Program: PHD Advisor: Hennessy Relation: CS PhD Student Account: 1-DMA612 MMS@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA612 mjs@SU-NAVAJO Yang, Michael Title: 1022 Undergraduate Slave Program: MSCS Advisor: Manna Relation: Account Holder Relation: CS Masters Student Relation: CS Undergraduate Student Relation: Hourly Employee Relation: Mailed Score Charges Relation: Office Holder Relation: Pedit Meta Maintainer Relation: TAX Billing Person Account: 1-DMA601 MIKEY@SU-SCORE Account: 1-DMA601 MKY@SU-AI Account: 1-DMA601 mikey@SU-NAVAJO ------- -------

PDheader:1987-02-12 00:28:00-08:00 ab21011914f02ee8776ffca861a9e91e ∂12-Feb-87 0028 JOHNMARK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU [Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: Info-mac on Labrea ] Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 12 Feb 87 00:28:51 PST Date: Thu 12 Feb 87 00:20:11-PST From: John Mark Agosta <JOHNMARK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: Info-mac on Labrea ] To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12278391728.17.JOHNMARK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

Les - could you please convey to Lynn Gotelli whatever adminstrative details she needs to open my Labrea account. Thanks -j --------------- Return-Path: <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Received: from SAIL.STANFORD.EDU by Sushi.Stanford.EDU with TCP; Thu 29 Jan 87 11:07:59-PST Date: 29 Jan 87 1048 PST From: Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Info-mac on Labrea To: Johnmark@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU CC: kolk@NAVAJO.STANFORD.EDU Yes, I guess that we can carry info-mac as a general information service for now. Dan Kolkowitz will make the necessary arrangements.

PDheader:1987-02-13 14:48:00-08:00 901ad09966f9a854c5b8c9c471c0b121 ∂13-Feb-87 1448 RESTIVO@Score.Stanford.EDU re: cwr@sail Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 13 Feb 87 14:46:35 PST Date: Fri 13 Feb 87 14:37:43-PST From: Chuck Restivo <Restivo@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: re: cwr@sail To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Fri 13 Feb 87 13:14:00-PST Message-ID: <12278809982.21.RESTIVO@Score.Stanford.EDU>

[In reply to message sent Fri 13 Feb 87 13:13:57-PST.] >What is your connection here now? [cwr] I have no formal connection to Stanford University. I am not on anyones payroll. I am not a student, staff member, or faculty member. I run the Prolog Digest for the network, and answer questions and help people with logic programming problems on most of the machines around. I plan to work on Tablog after I finish school in May. I am happy to bend wire, backup or re-start computers, or talk over any other proposals you want to put on the table in order to assist justification for a share of the resources. >The only plausible basis for having an account is for Stanford connected work. [cwr] I primarily use SAIL to access YM's TABLOG interpreter, and prove things with FOL. Occasionally, I allow myself to experiment with the parry program. Best, Chuck -------

PDheader:1987-02-13 18:02:00-08:00 71f918c5841093d5e71ffd3cb121e4f3 ∂13-Feb-87 1802 LES Rockwell computer charges To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Nilsson@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Based on the $180 computer charge figure for the Rockwell folks for one month, Nils would like to have their ongoing computer charges made on his existing Rockwell research account, the number of which we don't know -- hope you do. Les

PDheader:1987-02-13 20:28:00-08:00 73f047f22f054306610dc43c852fec2f ∂13-Feb-87 2028 LES SAIL and Score accounts To: Restivo@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 13 Feb 87 14:37:43-PST.]

I regret to say that it will not be possible to continue any of your accounts without finding someone here who either is willing to pay the bill out of research funds or who is willing to make the case that you are doing something valuable for CSD.

PDheader:1987-02-14 06:44:00-08:00 c5d58b34ee16663b36845dbb776748e0 ∂14-Feb-87 0644 RESTIVO@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: SAIL and Score accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 14 Feb 87 06:44:51 PST Date: Sat 14 Feb 87 06:43:52-PST From: Chuck Restivo <Restivo@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: SAIL and Score accounts To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Fri 13 Feb 87 20:28:00-PST Message-ID: <12278985863.10.RESTIVO@Score.Stanford.EDU>

[cwr] Right. Please do not close me out of score, I'll work on finding someone. -------

PDheader:1987-02-15 18:16:00-08:00 f967a8b699e49d2ebd5890df4d9d3b00 ∂15-Feb-87 1816 JMC re: SAIL and Score accounts To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Restivo@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Sun 15 Feb 87 16:23:45-PST.]

I would like to argue that Restivo's operating the Prolog digest is of sufficient community value to justify continuing his accounts. I believe it can be called a community service and hence an overhead item.

PDheader:1987-02-15 18:25:00-08:00 c72e2d47a8039fbf27f57e8b69922902 ∂15-Feb-87 1825 ullman@navajo.stanford.edu Prolog digest Received: from NAVAJO.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 15 Feb 87 18:25:37 PST Received: by navajo.stanford.edu; Sun, 15 Feb 87 18:24:38 PST Date: Sun, 15 Feb 87 18:24:38 PST From: Jeff Ullman <ullman@navajo.stanford.edu> Subject: Prolog digest To: les@sail.stanford.edu, restivo@score.stanford.edu

I can't justify spending from my research funds to pay for the Prolog digest, even though I agree it is an important function. If I ever get one of my RT's on the ethernet, you are welcome to operate it from there. How much cost is involved? Chuck: what exactly is your connection with Stanford and score? Why is not your computing paid from some research budget or other? ---jdu

PDheader:1987-02-15 22:59:00-08:00 6d5ff171f8618d827500a06b73e6b44d ∂15-Feb-87 2259 LES re: SAIL and Score accounts To: JMC [In reply to message rcvd 15-Feb-87 18:16-PT.]

Inasmuch as CSD-CF is in the computer services business but not in the community service business, the appropriate entity for providing computer support for Restivo, other than a sponsored project, would be CSD. Therefore if Jeff Ullman declines (Chuck asked him too), I will plan to invite Nils to decide.

PDheader:1987-02-15 23:00:00-08:00 42f379fd83316e06142de73a443e9841 ∂15-Feb-87 2300 JMC Community service

It is customary for computer facilities to provide some community services within limits out of overhead, e.g. bulletin boards. The Prolog digest is a bulletin board of scientific interest and not merely (or especially) of social interest. I think we should keep it, since it serves a wide community, and I'm quite sure we'll have no accounting trouble regarding it as an overhead item. Are we short of some resource that it uses? If so, perhaps it can be revised so as to use less of that resource.

PDheader:1987-02-15 23:13:00-08:00 36e0c1905668a6b6fd0f2115b23c574b ∂15-Feb-87 2313 LES re: Community service To: JMC [In reply to message rcvd 15-Feb-87 23:00-PT.]

There is a significant difference between the local bboard community, which pays for computer time both to post and read bboard messages, and the Prolog Newsletter community, which is largely external. I am currently offering CSD-CF overhead accounts only to people who maintain useful software for CSD-CF machines. If Nils agrees that that the Prolog Newsletter is a useful CS community service, then an account could be provided on Sushi, which is not a cost center.

PDheader:1987-02-18 01:42:00-08:00 7ae31eeb5619c5041c2b5ae00ed9e6da ∂18-Feb-87 0142 LES re: [Jack Breese <BREESE@Score.Stanford.EDU>: New Rockwell User] To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Nilsson@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Tue 17 Feb 87 10:51:22-PST.]

As we discussed, the Rockwell accounts should be charged to Nils' research account sponsored by Rockwell. I believe that there should be no more than 10 people from Rockwell using such accounts. Also as we discussed, Nils has approved giving a Sushi account to Chuck Restivo in support of his volunteer work on the Prolog Newsletter. Restivo is moving his files from Score to Sushi and his Score account should be closed soon, certainly no later than the end of February. Les

PDheader:1987-02-18 20:38:00-08:00 f1924435e98d103c33bfa88be48a4600 ∂18-Feb-87 2038 ME SAIL user UCL

I would like us to retain Lauren Weinstein's SAIL account, UCL. His usage is very minimal, but I sometimes discuss the NS research with him. Well, maybe it's flimsy reasoning, but what say you? LES - How does his having a Sail account help your discussion? Does he need to use NS? ME - Yes. LES - OK, then we will call him a collaborator. BTW, if it isn't too late, perhaps the census message should say something like "Polls close at 9:00pm on February 25, 1987.

PDheader:1987-02-18 20:50:00-08:00 6e0ae460f7290b3f1f04cefd28eaf93f ∂18-Feb-87 2050 LES Weinstein account

PDheader:1987-02-18 20:55:00-08:00 7dfed585c81f3333c382f25db317f8ed ∂18-Feb-87 2055 ME Weinstein acct

PDheader:1987-02-18 20:59:00-08:00 d2d5d3729a0794e034ed12ade81769ab ∂18-Feb-87 2059 LES To: ME

PDheader:1987-02-19 12:05:00-08:00 a2afab1bcb58b764e6ec10ac9058c8e7 ∂19-Feb-87 1205 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Navajo 86/87 Depreciation Credit Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 19 Feb 87 12:05:33 PST Date: Thu 19 Feb 87 11:55:37-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Navajo 86/87 Depreciation Credit To: Oliger@Score.Stanford.EDU, Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: Eppley@Score.Stanford.EDU, BScott@Score.Stanford.EDU,

Tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12280353336.18.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Date: 15 Oct 86 1523 PDT From: Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Oliger's FY87 Navajo credit To: Tom@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Oliger@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Based on the following investments in Navajo by Joe Oliger's group and using a 5 year write-off, I calculate a credit for the current fiscal year of $33,024. Note that the amortization of the initial purchase runs out on June 1, 1982, so it contributes only 9 months of amortization credits. Amount Date of initial use Navajo initial purchase $160,211 June 1, 1982 Navajo improvements 44,960 Sept. 1, 1985 Please repeat the calculation and see if you agree. Les _______________________________________________________________________________ Following is a summary of Navajo usage charges applied to the 86/87 Navajo Depreciation Credit for Joe Oliger: Navajo usage FY86/87 Navajo Credit (33,024.00) 9/86 6,342.25 (26,681.75) 10/86 9,371.85 (17,309.90) 11/86 8,980.83 (8,329.07) 12/86 9,800.09 -------- 12/86 Navajo usage billed to Oliger's 2-DMA767 1,471.02 According to my calculations the depreciation credit was used up in December. Please let me know if you disagree. Thank you, Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-02-19 22:30:00-08:00 846859edfa6a190696a56ca7ecd5070d ∂19-Feb-87 2230 JJC

PDheader:1987-02-20 15:44:00-08:00 3350c6f6e6984f01335a5ce9a318c769 ∂20-Feb-87 1544 BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU Weyhrauch CSD-CF Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 20 Feb 87 15:44:34 PST Date: Fri 20 Feb 87 15:41:01-PST From: Betty Scott <BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Weyhrauch CSD-CF To: Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU, BScott@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12280656513.18.BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Lynn, with the December billing Richard Weyhrauch has $30 remaining for CSD-CF. Les says to close his account. Betty -------

PDheader:1987-02-22 10:24:00-08:00 59b73e75ec854a93dd4ec17c401beac8 ∂22-Feb-87 1024 NILSSON@Score.Stanford.EDU computer charges Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 22 Feb 87 10:24:46 PST Date: Sun 22 Feb 87 10:19:33-PST From: Nils Nilsson <NILSSON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: computer charges To: golub@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU, bscott@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12281122278.10.NILSSON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Gene, I've talked with Les Earnest about your suggestion that the dept help pay for some of your computer accts. I think it would be very difficult to administer special "departmental accounts" for all faculty members. We all do a lot of miscellaneous work on computers for the department, but in general I think the total incremental cost of that is too small to set up separate accounts for it, and if we did set up separate accounts the department would not be paying a "marginal" cost (as it should) but a higher cost than it can afford and should pay. I think it all evens out because the dept ends up paying for a lot of first-year unsupported students who should really be supported by the research projects they will eventually work for. So, I'm relying on research projects picking up the computing costs of our faculty. Let me know if you want to talk about this further. -Nils -------

PDheader:1987-02-23 15:49:00-08:00 faaafe3cdf2e84658eca000b4a264a2f ∂23-Feb-87 1549 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Closure of Outside Computer Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 23 Feb 87 15:49:14 PST Date: Mon 23 Feb 87 15:33:43-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Closure of Outside Computer Accounts To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU, Tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: Woodward@Score.Stanford.EDU, BillW@Score.Stanford.EDU, ME@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12281441615.40.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

The following Outside Computer Accounts marked with an "X" will be closed effective 1/31/87, those accounts I am not sure about marked with a "?" and the name of the person who sponsored the account, the remaining accounts marked with a "*" will stay open: Name Computer Account Ardell, Gary X Score Baker, Harlyn X Sail Bechtolsheim,A X Sail Beeton, Barbara * Sail Bosack, Len X Score Braden, Tory X Score Brest, Jeremy X Sail Burke, Ike ? Score Check with Nils Coursey, Janet X Score Craig, John X Sail Ellis, Wade X Score Close after 3/31/87 Erbring, Lutz X Score Friedlander, Ben X Score Fuchs, David X Score Gabriel, Richard * Sail Gaskins, Robert X Sail,Score Gibbons, Greg X Score Green, Cordell * Sail,Score Harvey, Jeffrey X Score Kagstrom,Bo ? Navajo Check with Golub Karnicky, Joseph X Score Kitajima, Yasuko X Sail,Score Lodi, Ed X Score Close after 3/31/87 Markosian, L. X Score Miller, A. X Sail Moortgat, Hugo ? Score Check with Gio Musselman, Joyce X Score Pehoushek, Joseph X Score Spence, K. X Sail TEX Guests * Score VanDooren, Paul ? Score Check with Golub Westfold, Stephen * Sail Weyhrauch, Richard X Sail,Score May I assume that these users and have been sufficiently warned that their computer accounts will be closed and no further messages need be sent? Thank you, Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-02-23 16:28:00-08:00 91be5a57dee12a93b2dfbc5ba06c7edd ∂23-Feb-87 1628 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU re: Closure of Outside Computer Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 23 Feb 87 16:28:34 PST Date: Mon 23 Feb 87 16:27:03-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: re: Closure of Outside Computer Accounts To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Mon 23 Feb 87 16:09:00-PST Message-ID: <12281451325.40.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

TeX Guests maintain TeX and METAFONT. Same as Barbara Beeton. Stephen Westfold works at Kestrel which is currently supporting research being conducted there by two Stanford graduate students in cooperation with Professors Gio Wiederhold and Thomas Binford. Also Kestrel teaches a class CS409. Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-02-25 17:05:00-08:00 a30d093146d0947dd30227bf466644da ∂25-Feb-87 1705 LES "TeXGuests" account To: BB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

I understand that you run as "TeXGuests" on Score and that there may be other people also using this account. For several reasons, we prefer that accounts be in the names of individuals and that, in general, only one person use a given account. I also understand that the purpose of this account is to do TeX maintenance work, which also benefits Stanford. If so, we would be willing to cover the computer costs for this purpose, rather than billing TUG. If there are other purposes for this account, it may be appropriate to continue billing TUG. Les Earnest

PDheader:1987-02-26 10:00:00-08:00 7319e2d7f7cef4a26916d484bf70abf4 ∂26-Feb-87 1000 BB "texguests@score To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

yes, i run as "texguests"@score. as soon as the tex project ended, i requested that billing be transferred to tug (as the alternative to terminating the account entirely), and immediately changed the password to prevent anyone from using it that i didn't know about. i have also tried to encourage everyone with whom i communicate to use a different mailing address, not at stanford, and am careful not to give out the texguests address (or an alias "beeton" that drops mail into a texguests subdirectory) unless the person trying to send me mail has failed completely to get it sent somewhere else. the main activity i engage in as texguests is transferring updated macro files between the math society and score (i also have access, via password, to <tex.amstex> and <tex.amsfonts> and am responsible for their maintenance). two other individuals at the math society know the password to texguests, in case there is need to check in and do something in my absence; i know of no others. many times i login not to update something there, but to get new information for tug or for the math society. (they are negotiating to see which gets the most benefit, and thus who should pay, but that is irrelevant at the moment.) information for tug includes maintaining the "official" errata list for "computers & typesetting" (an updated edition is published along with every issue of tugboat, many of whose subscribers have no network access), information on updates to tex, related software and macro packages (which is then communicated to the tug site coordinators, who are also often in charge of tex distribution for hardware not supported at stanford), and monitoring texhax questions (and answering them when i can) in my capacity as tugboat editor. this activity benefits the larger tex community, rather than stanford directly, so i don't know what your position would be regarding who should pay. if you believe tug should continue to pay (and i'm neutral on that), i've no objection to the name being changed to an individual name. (and if that happens, my preference would be for "bnb" or "beeton", whichever is more appropriate to your local scheme of things.) i apologize for this message being so long; i haven't mastered creating files on sail and sending them as a separate step (and am as well hamperred by the fact that the only terminals i have aren't particularly compatible). let me know if you have any more questions. -- bb

PDheader:1987-02-26 11:16:00-08:00 b74f3ed71c32fd5041f0d648f87337ee ∂26-Feb-87 1116 LES re: restivo@score To: RESTIVO@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Wed 25 Feb 87 17:41:18-PST.]

Sorry, but we cannot justify paying for a Score account. If your newsletter work requires more storage on Sushi, perhaps something can be done, but that account is not to be used for other activities. Les

PDheader:1987-02-26 17:40:00-08:00 97c0262051d097b1f0fd49086de35767 ∂26-Feb-87 1740 LES re: texguests@score, etc. To: BB@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message rcvd 26-Feb-87 14:27-PT.]

Your "texguests" account on score will be changed to "beeton" with the same password and email to texguests will be forwarded there for awhile. I have started the trace on the tape. Unfortunately, I do not know how to create another one and we both know that the guy who does know is neither instantly accessible nor totally reliable. But he does work cheap. Les

PDheader:1987-02-27 10:57:00-08:00 c08117ae00cca65fcd728c98860dcea3 ∂27-Feb-87 1057 RESTIVO@Sushi.Stanford.EDU restivo's score account Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 27 Feb 87 10:56:54 PST Date: Fri 27 Feb 87 10:49:09-PST From: Chuck Restivo <Restivo@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: restivo's score account To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: prolog-request@Sushi.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12282438387.18.RESTIVO@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

[cwr] Les, Turn my score account off - I have most of the files I need. Thank you for the opportunity to have it while I did, it was a scream. Best, Chuck -------

PDheader:1987-02-27 11:18:00-08:00 1d4519d5640330fde3d2a0cc7eff05bc ∂27-Feb-87 1118 LES restivo's score account To: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

PDheader:1987-03-04 13:13:00-08:00 575169ec8c1f82f16f756c7292f617c1 ∂04-Mar-87 1313 LES JJC@SAIL account To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

I have been reviewing the outside account of John Craig for consistency with CSD policies. After receiving the message below, I verified with Bernie Roth that there is a loose collaboration between him and Craig and, for that reason, it appears appropriate to continue the outside account for now. Please shut down the others, if you haven't already. Les

PDheader:1987-03-04 14:49:00-08:00 0c6dd3cb2036155491a151c616cd63de ∂04-Mar-87 1449 LES SAIL account To: JJC

OK, we will continue your SAIL account. The appropriateness issue will be reviewed about once a year.

PDheader:1987-03-06 17:41:00-08:00 32f28e784989a136b4ff44e635127abb ∂06-Mar-87 1741 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU G Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 6 Mar 87 17:40:59 PST Date: Fri 6 Mar 87 17:39:28-PST From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: G Accounts To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12284348092.9.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Wow! There are around 150 Guest accounts in SCORE (I thought there were 20 or something). This is an awful lot of G accounts to throw into the 078 listing, so I will have the program print them separately (with separate totals and stuff). They will be added to USERS and TAX, of course, but the program will just treat the G. accounts a little differently. Damon -------

PDheader:1987-03-06 18:28:00-08:00 52fef056a46b46b80fa369702ec577a4 ∂06-Mar-87 1828 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU G.Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 6 Mar 87 18:28:16 PST Date: Fri 6 Mar 87 18:27:14-PST From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: G.Accounts To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12284356788.9.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

These accounts are unknown: G.MELOHN G.BILKIS G.TOWSON They have no names entered into DBEDIT and the people database on SCORE knows nothing about a Mr/Ms Mehlohn, Bilkis, or Towson. So unless I hear further word, I'm just gonna forget about these critters. If you want me to try tracking them down (or nuking the accounts) just let me know. Damon -------

PDheader:1987-03-06 18:59:00-08:00 f1d2c0455efc15a0099238b51143951c ∂06-Mar-87 1859 DAMON@Sushi.Stanford.EDU G. Accounts Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 6 Mar 87 18:59:27 PST Date: Fri 6 Mar 87 18:58:04-PST From: Goddess Of Sheep <DAMON@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: G. Accounts To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12284362399.16.DAMON@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

There are probably 100 G. accounts that belong to people not in the people database. Adding them will be a lot of work, and since I am producing Jan's reports by Monday, I don't have time to add the G accounts for January. I will however have this done by the time we run February. Damon -------

PDheader:1987-03-06 19:11:00-08:00 e17d129c51ca9d6822119892f22535e0 ∂06-Mar-87 1911 LES re: G Accounts To: DAMON@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 6 Mar 87 17:39:28-PST.]

I too was surprised at the number of G.* accounts when I got a list of them from BillW. We reviewed the names and sorted them into three groups: a bunch to be nuked immediately, some to be retained, and a bunch to be asked why they think they should have an account on Score. I plan to put these three lists into a computer file this weekend. Curiously enough, the mystery people on your list did not appear on mine at all, i.e.: G.MELOHN G.BILKIS G.TOWSON Les

PDheader:1987-03-07 15:59:00-08:00 3fd11d4d30332e518d21dd69cb1c6d72 ∂07-Mar-87 1559 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU Reports Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 7 Mar 87 15:58:41 PST Date: Sat 7 Mar 87 15:57:39-PST From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Reports To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12284591699.10.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

All the outside-user accounts have been checked carefully to be sure the balances are correct to the penny. The program generates bills in a new format - I will show you samples when I generate the new reports. New reports have many extras - new machines and devices of course, $5 charge, G. accounts included. All the accounting is being done on SCORE. Joe and company on SAIL receives data monthly from SCORE now. Lynn's made all the changes for January. We need a couple of bits of info from upstairs (coming Monday) and we can run January. I will have the G accounts added for Feb's bills. That will probably happen in a couple of weeks. I'll round up samples of everything to show you for Feb - if you have ideas for other useful features not currently supported, I'm sure I could implement them in time for the Feb billing. Damon -------

PDheader:1987-03-09 09:56:00-08:00 9dd56504210b7b68f98f241f5d4343a2 ∂09-Mar-87 0956 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU [Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>: [Don Knuth <DEK@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: JXB account ]] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 9 Mar 87 09:56:24 PST Date: Mon 9 Mar 87 09:55:20-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>: [Don Knuth <DEK@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: JXB account ]] To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12285050030.26.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

FYI... --------------- Mail-From: GOTELLI created at 9-Mar-87 09:47:54 Date: Mon 9 Mar 87 09:47:52-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Don Knuth <DEK@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>: JXB account ] To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12285048672.26.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Don, I don't know who Kenny Duda is. <JXB@Sail> is supposed to be used by Jeremy Brest. A memo written by Les Earnest was mailed to all off campus CSD-CF users on 1/8/87 warning them their computer accounts would be closed. I would guess the memo was mailed to Jeremy Brest the user of the account. Lynn --------------- Return-Path: <DEK@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Received: from SAIL.STANFORD.EDU by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Sun 8 Mar 87 20:48:22-PST Date: 08 Mar 87 2046 PST From: Don Knuth <DEK@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: JXB account To: gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU I just got a query from Kenny Duda, who has been using the JXB account I understood was being paid for by PACO. It seems the account has mysteriously disappeared? He is an extremely bright and conscientious high school student who has been using this account to typeset beautiful concert programs for some great concerts my wife and I have been attending. So I can imagine his distress at being cut off without warning. Have you any idea what happened?? ------- -------

PDheader:1987-03-09 14:26:00-08:00 6c74418024e2a4e0eeb6ddf4169972a6 ∂09-Mar-87 1426 LES Billing of Frozen Accounts To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: CLT@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

Carolyn Talcott tells me that I need to tell you not to charge customers such as Perseus for periods when their computer account has been frozen. If we are generating such charges, the billing system should be fixed. Les

PDheader:1987-03-09 14:56:00-08:00 9b0c15275ec74faca81b296d701e4b75 ∂09-Mar-87 1456 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Billing of Frozen Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 9 Mar 87 14:56:03 PST Date: Mon 9 Mar 87 14:54:54-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Billing of Frozen Accounts To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Mon 9 Mar 87 14:26:00-PST Message-ID: <12285104565.26.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, Even after an account has been frozen preventing the user from logging in there may well continue to be disk charges associated with the account until such time as the account is closed. I do not have any record of being notified by electronic mail from you, Carolyn Talcott, or Richard Weyhrauch to close any of the Persus accounts until your memo dated 1/8/87 was mailed to all the off campus users of CSD-CF stating that the accounts would be closed effective 1/31/87. -------

PDheader:1987-03-09 15:05:00-08:00 2dc767481fba5818d9c672d0f669abd1 ∂09-Mar-87 1505 LES re: Billing of Frozen Accounts To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Mon 9 Mar 87 14:54:54-PST.]

Hmm. I recall informally asking Weyhrauch to close his outside accounts by Sept.1, 1986, but I did not check to see if it happened. If Perseus ceased all activities at that point, then I guess that we should not bill them past Sept. 1. If there was subsequent activity (other than disk storage use) and Perseus did not give us a termination date, then the billing should go to the end of January, when all such accounts were supposed to be frozen. Les

PDheader:1987-03-11 15:37:00-08:00 3c96a6e6d2513587587597e56efeb971 ∂11-Mar-87 1537 BILLW@Score.Stanford.EDU Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 11 Mar 87 15:37:18 PST Return-Path: <CLT@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Date: 11 Mar 87 1454 PST From: Carolyn Talcott <CLT@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: To: billw@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU ReSent-To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU, gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU ReSent-From: BILLW at SCORE.STANFORD.EDU (connected to PS:<TCP>) ReSent-Date: 11 Mar 1987

There is a directory at score called <THM> which I just discovered is being charged to me. It is the sources and core image for the Boyer-Moore theorem prover. The intention was to make it available to people as Score. I do not wish to pay disk charges for this public service. Could you please remove it from my account? If people are using it and you want to transfer owner ship of the area and keep it that is fine. Otherwise just delete the directory. Thanks,

PDheader:1987-03-11 23:16:00-08:00 ebff0a6d805d3edac420c5623e43fb14 ∂11-Mar-87 2316 VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM My account on SCORE Received: from CRVAX.SRI.COM by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 11 Mar 87 23:15:55 PST Date: Wed, 11 MAR 87 23:17:42 PST * From: Bill Limbek <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM> To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU Cc: VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM Subject: My account on SCORE Reply-To: <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM>

Les, I am actually Joe Karnicky (used to be KARNICKY@SCORE). A few days ago I found that my directory at SCORE had been deleted. Lynn Gotelli explained the reason in a message appended below. I had not recieved the memo described in that message (it was paper mailed) and had been using the directory frequently. Lynn suggested I contact you about the possibility of getting the directory reinstated. Please reply to this address (VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM) Thanks, Joe Karnicky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Return-Path: <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Received: From SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by CRVAX.SRI.COM with TCP; Fri, 6 MAR 87 16:51:23 PST Date: Fri 6 Mar 87 16:47:31-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: RE: Re: [Bill Limbek <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM> : I can't login to SCORE] To: VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Bill Limbek <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM> " of Fri 6 Mar 87 16:23:11-PST Message-ID: <12284338633.28.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Joe, On January 8th, 1987 a memo was mailed to all off campus users of the Computer Science Department Computer Facilities computers. This memo explained the pricing policy, new rates, and the current policy on the use of departmental computers by off campus organizations. All users were asked to review these policies to determine whether they believe that it is appropriate to continue using our facilities and to respond to us by 1/30/87. Apparently Varian did not respond to this memo therefore your account has been closed. Lynn Gotelli -------

PDheader:1987-03-12 13:01:00-08:00 cd4f1a13e63ac1a9ca8e74476d9fee13 ∂12-Mar-87 1301 LES Computer Use Policy To: VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

[Here is the key part of the January 8 memo the Lynn Gotelli referred to.] The Computer Science Department recently clarified its position on the use of departmental computer facilities by adopting the following policy. ``Computers operated by components of the Department of Computer Science may be used only by Stanford employees, visiting scholars and students in direct support of teaching, research and administrative needs of the University. The following are the only exceptions and must be specifically approved in advance and at least annually thereafter by the Department Chairman: (1) others may be granted access to computers if it is required in support of a contract with Stanford or for research collaboration with a Stanford employee or visiting scholar; (2) access may be granted to agents of nonprofit scientific societies whose activities complement and enhance those of the Department of Computer Science; (3) vendors that maintain valuable software on departmental machines may be granted free computer accounts to carry out this work only; (4) in cases where it will benefit the department to have direct communication with certain individuals, they may be granted free computer accounts for the purpose of sending or receiving electronic mail only. In keeping with University policy, the resources and facilities of the Department may not be used for non-University purposes except in a purely incidental way.'' It appears that there are several current off-campus users whose functions do not mesh with this policy. I request that you review the above policy statement and, if you conclude that your use does not fit it, please make arrangements to retrieve whatever files you want and terminate your account not later than the end of January. If you think that your continuing use of CSD-CF facilities _is_ appropriate under this policy, please send me a brief description of how your use complies with it. Any off-campus accounts for which no such statement has been received by January 30 will be frozen on February 1. Please also include the following statement in your note: ``I understand that CSD-CF computer facilities operate as a cost center, that its charge rates may be adjusted at any time so as to balance income with expenses, and that such adjustments may be retroactive for as much as one year.'' Sincerely, Les Earnest CSD-CF Director Pro Tem

PDheader:1987-03-15 18:21:00-08:00 37d5c44a842b0e7be6f9e9be1dfaf33c ∂15-Mar-87 1821 LES Navajo Account Closure To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Please close the account mjs@navajo, which apparently never generated any charges.

PDheader:1987-03-16 15:21:00-08:00 a10c81cf4f3e1f6e428ca988cd3efb90 ∂16-Mar-87 1521 VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM Re: Computer Use Policy Received: from CRVAX.SRI.COM by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 16 Mar 87 15:19:26 PST Date: Mon, 16 MAR 87 15:21:16 PST * From: Joe Karnicky - was KARNICKY@SCORE <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM> To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU Cc: VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM Subject: Re: Computer Use Policy Reply-To: <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM>

Les: Thanks for the message. I do not think my continuing usage of CSD-CF facilities is appropriate under the described policy. However, I would very much appreciate having access to my directory for two or three weeks so that I can make alternate arrangements and retrieve my files. How can I arrange this? Joe

PDheader:1987-03-16 16:33:00-08:00 17437927fab3be671718c91758677a00 ∂16-Mar-87 1633 LES re: Account to be flushed To: kolk@NAVAJO.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Mon, 16 Mar 87 15:59:57 PST.]

Right, please close Mike Dixon's Navajo account.

PDheader:1987-03-17 14:10:00-08:00 a46c15944b62f2436ae8f584fa07832f ∂17-Mar-87 1410 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU THM@Score Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 17 Mar 87 14:10:00 PST Date: Tue 17 Mar 87 13:58:52-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: THM@Score To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, billw@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12287191515.32.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I believe Bill Westfield forwarded a message to you he received from Carolyn Talcott regarding <thm@score>. Do you want this directory deleted or billed elsewhere? If you want it billed elsewhere may I please have the account number? Thanks, Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-03-17 15:04:00-08:00 918d1ef406f960a5e09fe15e9412a8cc ∂17-Mar-87 1504 LES re: THM@Score To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: BillW@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Tue 17 Mar 87 13:58:52-PST.]

Carolyn's message made it clear that the thm@score account was put there as a public service. If there are users of the theorem prover, then perhaps it should be retained as a system service. If not, it should be deleted.

PDheader:1987-03-17 15:25:00-08:00 3f4bdc1ee0faab39f956da2372b96433 ∂17-Mar-87 1525 VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM Re(2): Computer Use Policy Received: from CRVAX.SRI.COM by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 17 Mar 87 15:25:30 PST Date: Tue, 17 MAR 87 15:27:32 PST * From: joe karnicky <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM> To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU Cc: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM Subject: Re(2): Computer Use Policy Reply-To: <VARIAN@CRVAX.SRI.COM>

The two or three weeks would be a convenience to me, in that I could liesurely sort through my stuff, decide what's worth keeping, and transfer directly to an account I would open at SRI in the meantime. It does not seem an unreasonable request in that I had no advance warning of the directory closure. However, as you see fit.... My order of preference is: (1) Open directory for two or three weeks. (2) open directory for two or three days (3) tar tape Let me know what you intend to do. Joe

PDheader:1987-03-17 16:06:00-08:00 70f483913581b3d5c67bc0e5eda27e34 ∂17-Mar-87 1606 @SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU:LYNN@PANDA re: G.FIGMO@SCORE Received: from SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 17 Mar 87 16:06:03 PST Received: from PANDA by SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU with Cafard; Tue 17 Mar 87 16:05:42-PST Date: Tue 17 Mar 87 14:55:28-PST From: Lynn Gold <Lynn%PANDA@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> Subject: re: G.FIGMO@SCORE To: LES@SAIL.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Tue 17 Mar 87 13:33:00-PST Address: 1802 Hackett Ave., Mountain View, CA 94043-4431 Phone: (415) 968-1052 Message-ID: <12287201819.9.LYNN@PANDA>

Sigh... My "raison d'etre" on Score was originally to be able to contact Mark (who is often impossible to contact any other way); when I was working on the net, it became a courtesy account. I have offered to help out with the Atari mailing lists in part because I had offered to help out with the Atari mailing lists in order to give my account a more solid purpose, but Bill Westfield never responded on that one (or if he did, Panda lost the msg). Is there some way I could justify being on Score? Perhaps there is some work I could do on a volunteer basis to help out. --Lynn P.S.--Regarding my files, YES, I want them! Is there some way I could access them without having to put them on magtape et al? I'd rather not involve Mark if at all possible. -------

PDheader:1987-03-17 22:54:00-08:00 4f6bc10aad4dbec0d228d423bd70d3a1 ∂17-Mar-87 2254 ibuki!rww@labrea.stanford.edu my sail account Received: from LABREA by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 17 Mar 87 22:54:12 PST Received: by labrea.stanford.edu with Sendmail; Tue, 17 Mar 87 22:52:35 pst Received: by ibuki.UUCP (1.4/4.7) id AA3080429; Tue, 17 Mar 87 22:52:59 pst Date: Tue, 17 Mar 87 22:52:59 pst From: ibuki!rww@labrea.stanford.edu (Richard W. Weyhrauch) Message-Id: <8703180652.AA3080429@ibuki.UUCP> To: labrea!les@sail Subject: my sail account

I would like to remove my files from my areas but I cannot log in. Is it possible to reinstate my login for about a week? PS I cannot read my mail. PPS is it possible to keep my mail account at sail? Richard ps try to dλsend me mail a t "ibuki%rww"@labrea

PDheader:1987-03-18 08:12:00-08:00 3fd65f825a50f612ce284134e22f2572 ∂18-Mar-87 0812 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Alpert account Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 18 Mar 87 08:12:28 PST Date: Wed 18 Mar 87 08:10:42-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Alpert account To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Tue 17 Mar 87 17:49:00-PST Message-ID: <12287390280.9.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

CSD-CF (9-DMA078) pays for Jack Alperts usage and printing charges. -------

PDheader:1987-03-18 08:35:00-08:00 61ae723a75bdacfbfbd72130daa2b0c7 ∂18-Mar-87 0835 BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU [Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>: [James Wilson <jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU>: printing at MJH from the IBM Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 18 Mar 87 08:35:35 PST Date: Wed 18 Mar 87 08:26:09-PST From: Betty Scott <BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>: [James Wilson <jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU>: printing at MJH from the IBM RT's]] To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12287393090.17.BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I guess I don't know the answer to this. Should we be paying for copy charges for the RT's, or should Stuart's undergraduate budget be paying for these? Betty --------------- Mail-From: GOTELLI created at 17-Mar-87 15:02:08 Date: Tue 17 Mar 87 15:02:08-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [James Wilson <jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU>: printing at MJH from the IBM RT's] To: BScott@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12287203033.32.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Betty, Stuart is authorizing me to charge 1-DMA612 for printing charges each month from the IBM RT's to Boise, Maple and Jonathan. Is this alright with you. Thanks, Lynn --------------- Return-Path: <jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU> Received: from portia.STANFORD.EDU by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Tue 17 Mar 87 14:24:32-PST Received: by portia.STANFORD.EDU; Tue, 17 Mar 87 14:26:18 PST Date: 17 Mar 1987 1426-PST (Tuesday) From: James Wilson <jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU> To: gotelli@score.STANFORD.EDU Cc: jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU, reuling@score.STANFORD.EDU Subject: printing at MJH from the IBM RT's For printing charges, use the same account as sushi. This is what Stuart sent as to which account to use for printing to boise, jonathan and maple. ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: <REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU> Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by portia.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Tue, 17 Mar 87 12:57:50 PST Date: Tue 17 Mar 87 12:55:54-PST From: Stuart Reges <REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: printing to MJH To: jwilson@Portia.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "James Wilson <jwilson@portia.STANFORD.EDU>" of Tue 17 Mar 87 12:31:00-PST Office: CS-TAC 22, 723-9798 Message-Id: <12287180053.12.REGES@Score.Stanford.EDU> The same account where SUSHI printing is charged. We will restrict access to these printers to those who have SUSHI accounts. John Reuling has set up a similar deal with Pierre King for Portia. ------- ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- -------

PDheader:1987-03-18 19:08:00-08:00 c982c3ab8b29cf6253f58397c784c19b ∂18-Mar-87 1908 LES File Retrieval To: Billw@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU As we discussed, would you please:

(1) arrange for the accounts and files of these people to be restored temporarily (say, one week); (2) arrange to tell them when it is ready, via email; (3) arrange to have them disappear again at the appointed time.

PDheader:1987-03-18 19:12:00-08:00 622ffa7d9552f80d0a194ef044d853fe ∂18-Mar-87 1912 LES RWW account To: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Please re-enable (and if necessary restore) RWW@SAIL for about a week so that Richard can retrieve his files. Also, let him know when it is ready via email to ibuki%rww@labrea.

PDheader:1987-03-19 21:43:00-08:00 1c80e75f6aa249cb7022f9987d29334a ∂19-Mar-87 2143 CLT Pack@score

She is not longer part of our group, so if she wants a score account she should get it elsewhere. I think she is still a student, so she should get a sushi account probably.

PDheader:1987-03-19 21:45:00-08:00 9e4aea852af7a984bd500329f3fe6d15 ∂19-Mar-87 2145 CLT Ron Avitzur account

The email is probably because he is on the qlisp mailing list. He's and undergrad who thought he wanted to do some Qlisp hacking, so we gave him a SAIL account. But so far he hasn't done anything. Hold off for now, I'll see what his intentions are. --- CLT I sent him a msg on 21 march. Fing says he has logged in since then, but I got no reply, and he hasn't been coming to the qlisp meetings. He has no files, so I see not reason not to flush him. If he wants to do some qlisp stuff we can give him an alliant account.

PDheader:1987-03-19 23:44:00-08:00 9f1fb03db7b62c5048dda3d19676849a ∂19-Mar-87 2344 JJW SAIL usage statistics To: ME, LES

Just for fun, I did some analysis on the February usage statistics for SAIL, to see how many frequent users there are. Here are the results: 19 people used >100 hours (login time) 21 people used 10-100 hours 50 people used 1-10 hours 51 people used <1 hours 325 people used 0 hours The top 40 users are the following: JMC 349 LES 283 CLT 255 IGS 233 JJW 208 ME 205 ZM 203 EED 180 PHY 165 RA 159 DEK 144 NSH 134 SJG 133 RLG 123 VAL 121 RPG 118 DCL 115 RBA 107 FFL 104 RTC 78 AIR 65 RFN 61 DRF 59 PKR 47 JSW 44 RWF 37 MA 37 SYS 35 RFC 34 GLB 32 LGD 29 GIO 26 OK 23 DON 22 RWW 19 SD 15 FY 11 BXJ 11 AVB 11 YM 10

PDheader:1987-03-20 10:00:00-08:00 7f0e59c7cc7f0baf852bf1d54a2f6a85 ∂20-Mar-87 1000 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Score Account for me Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 20 Mar 87 10:00:09 PST Date: Fri 20 Mar 87 09:58:15-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Score Account for me To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Thu 19 Mar 87 23:47:00-PST Message-ID: <12287934145.17.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, <les@score> has been opened with password: wordbank Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-03-20 16:25:00-08:00 47473b410c813e801090a41fdee99cc7 ∂20-Mar-87 1625 ME purgees about to be

I plan to purge the following unauthorized accounts at the end of next week (by reaping all their files). If you think any of these should be saved, let me know. (RWW is in the list, but perhaps will have had enough time to move his files by next Friday.) I've included mail forwarding information since it often helps in figuring out whose account it really is (or was). Unknown user: AAA Unknown user: AAM whose mail is forwarded to: AAA Unknown user: AH whose mail is forwarded to: "hersk%ucbkim"%UCBVAX.Berkeley.EDU Unknown user: ARS whose mail is forwarded to: ARS%SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: AVG whose mail is forwarded to: GARDNER%SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: AXH Unknown user: BIK Unknown user: BOB Unknown user: BVM whose mail is forwarded to: vanMelle%XEROX.COM Unknown user: BXB Unknown user: BZM whose mail is forwarded to: BZM%A.CS.CMU.EDU Unknown user: CAT Unknown user: CB whose mail is forwarded to: "BUCKLEY%CZHETH5A.BITNET"%WISCVM.WISC.EDU Unknown user: CF Unknown user: CKC Unknown user: CRM Unknown user: CYC Unknown user: DAK whose mail is forwarded to: Dikran%CSLI.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: DBA whose mail is forwarded to: 'DBA/-E Unknown user: DBM Unknown user: DBS Unknown user: DCS whose mail is forwarded to: Swinehart%XEROX.COM Unknown user: DE whose mail is forwarded to: Kronj%SIERRA.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: DMC whose mail is forwarded to: dmc%WHITNEY.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: EB Unknown user: EHF Unknown user: ET whose mail is forwarded to: ernst%WHITNEY.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: GDG Unknown user: GHG whose mail is forwarded to: Golub%SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: GMS Unknown user: HAR Unknown user: HAS Unknown user: HDG Unknown user: HHB whose mail is forwarded to: baker%SRI-STRIPE.ARPA Unknown user: HIC whose mail is forwarded to: HIC%MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Unknown user: HYS Unknown user: IMK Unknown user: JBC Unknown user: JBM Unknown user: JCH Unknown user: JCS whose mail is forwarded to: yeff%CSLI.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: JDA Unknown user: JHL whose mail is forwarded to: "laubsch%hplabs.csnet"%RELAY.CS.NET Unknown user: JJM Unknown user: JKS whose mail is forwarded to: "jks@mit-oz"%mit-mc Unknown user: JKT Unknown user: JLG Unknown user: JLW whose mail is forwarded to: edsel!jonl%NAVAJO.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: JP Unknown user: JPB whose mail is forwarded to: A.JPBion%GSB-WHY.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: JPS Unknown user: JWB Unknown user: JXB Unknown user: KDO Unknown user: KIP Unknown user: KLC Unknown user: KWT whose mail is forwarded to: ktracy%SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: KYW whose mail is forwarded to: whang%SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: LAG Unknown user: LFL whose mail is forwarded to: Lattanzi%SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: LLW whose mail is forwarded to: LLW%S1-B.ARPA Unknown user: MAS Unknown user: MBH Unknown user: MEW whose mail is forwarded to: MWALKER%SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: MF Unknown user: MG Unknown user: MJC Unknown user: MJF Unknown user: MLT Unknown user: MM whose mail is forwarded to: Minsky%MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Unknown user: MN Unknown user: MOG whose mail is forwarded to: mogul%SHASTA.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: MSK whose mail is forwarded to: MSK%SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: MXG whose mail is forwarded to: SJG Unknown user: NAN whose mail is forwarded to: nan%SRI-NIC.ARPA Unknown user: NAT Unknown user: NKN Unknown user: NUK Unknown user: NWD Unknown user: OWE Unknown user: PAS Unknown user: PK whose mail is forwarded to: pam%WHITNEY.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: PLI Unknown user: PN Unknown user: PTM Unknown user: PTZ whose mail is forwarded to: PolleZ%XEROX.COM Unknown user: PWM Unknown user: QCC Unknown user: RAC Unknown user: RAE Unknown user: RAS whose mail is forwarded to: acornrc!ras%DECWRL.DEC.COM Unknown user: RAY Unknown user: RCM Unknown user: RDA Unknown user: RFS Unknown user: RG whose mail is forwarded to: RG%MC.LCS.MIT.EDU Unknown user: RJM Unknown user: ROZ Unknown user: RS Unknown user: RV whose mail is forwarded to: vistnes%whitney.stanford.edu Unknown user: RWG whose mail is forwarded to: rwg%RUSSIAN.SPA.Symbolics.COM%SCRC-STONY-BROOK.ARPA Unknown user: RWW Unknown user: RZS Unknown user: SAA Unknown user: SCH whose mail is forwarded to: SCH%CCRMA Unknown user: SGD Unknown user: SHA Unknown user: SID whose mail is forwarded to: russell%SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: SIG Unknown user: SJK whose mail is forwarded to: Kaplan%SRI-STRIPE.ARPA Unknown user: SM whose mail is forwarded to: McGregor%DECWRL.DEC.COM Unknown user: SMG Unknown user: SMJ Unknown user: ST Unknown user: TCV Unknown user: THS whose mail is forwarded to: spencert.rpi%RELAY.CS.NET Unknown user: TMM Unknown user: TW whose mail is forwarded to: WINOGRAD%CSLI.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: VIV whose mail is forwarded to: jlh.vivek%SIERRA.STANFORD.EDU Unknown user: WMW Unknown user: WRP Unknown user: WSM Unknown user: YAW Unknown user: YK Unknown user: ZZZ

PDheader:1987-03-20 17:04:00-08:00 a5f38f17a24a1e2d6254ab7ece73964a ∂20-Mar-87 1704 ELLIS@Score.Stanford.EDU SCORE Account Extension Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 20 Mar 87 17:04:11 PST Date: Fri 20 Mar 87 17:02:19-PST From: Wade Ellis <ELLIS@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: SCORE Account Extension To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: ellis@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12288011345.17.ELLIS@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Professor Earnest: As per our converstion on March 20, 1987, we are requesting an extension through the Spring quarter of our account (ELLIS) on SCORE. Our request for this extension arises because the AMS has encountered difficulties in implementing the CMR TeX font on the APS-5. Thank you very much for considering this request. Sincerely, Wade Ellis -------

PDheader:1987-03-20 18:01:00-08:00 bfef2f16ec74227e0f632367a046cc32 ∂20-Mar-87 1801 LES re: SCORE Account Extension To: ELLIS@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 20 Mar 87 17:02:19-PST.]

Whoa! As I pointed out to you, the slow downloading of CM fonts has no bearing on your printing taks inasmuch as you pay by the page, not by the clock. Therefore your request for an extension makes no sense. Les Earnest

PDheader:1987-03-21 13:43:00-08:00 55b7e0f154a32bb6d1eb04af0cc56531 ∂21-Mar-87 1343 hdavis@amadeus.stanford.edu moving my navajo account to rocky... Received: from AMADEUS.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 21 Mar 87 13:43:37 PST Received: by amadeus.stanford.edu; Sat, 21 Mar 87 13:47:10 PST Date: Sat, 21 Mar 87 13:47:10 PST From: Helen Davis <hdavis@amadeus.stanford.edu> Subject: moving my navajo account to rocky... To: les@sail.stanford.edu

it is fine with me. Helen

PDheader:1987-03-21 16:09:00-08:00 3dc0af4c11c219c456c0d59586fd3252 ∂21-Mar-87 1609 JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU Another new account on Score needed Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 21 Mar 87 16:09:24 PST Date: Sat 21 Mar 87 16:07:26-PST From: Jamison R. Gray <JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Another new account on Score needed To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: jgray@Sushi.Stanford.EDU, nilsson@Score.Stanford.EDU,

morgan@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12288263496.20.JGRAY@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Lynn, Les- In January, you set up an account for the Morgan Kaufman publishing company, for their TeX designer who's been working with me on Mike Genesereth's and Nils Nilsson's new book. This has been working out quite well. Next week, however, a third person will be joining us to help with editing tasks. We would like a second account, also billed to Morgan Kaufman, for this person to use. The people at Morgan Kaufman have agreed to this second account, as has Nils, and since you approved the previous account I wouldn't expect this to be a problem. Les, I understand that you must send your approval to Lynn before she can set up the account. Group accounts are not allowed, so that's why we would like this one (as well as to avoid the problems of having two people work on files in the same account). The person who will be using the account can come in next week to fill out the application form. Thanks for you help! -- Jamie -------

PDheader:1987-03-21 16:56:00-08:00 d6e1321f82f4263e8630a1801535a97b ∂21-Mar-87 1656 LES Navajo Account Closure To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, hdavis@AMADEUS.STANFORD.EDU Lynn:

Please close the account davis@navajo, as agreed below. Helen: Rocky accounts are administered by John Reuling and friends. Les

PDheader:1987-03-21 17:33:00-08:00 e56235889d24fd5911d3c954ce6afce2 ∂21-Mar-87 1733 LES Computer Account Changes To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, RA@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: CLT@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, BScott@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Based on Carolyn Talcott's review of computer accounts charged to John McCarthy's accounts, the following changes should be made. (In fact, some of this has been wrong for years.) Please close the following accounts immediately. Any of these that incurred charges on account 2-DMA762 after its closure (Jan. 31) should be charged to 2-DMA705 (Qlisp). SAIL: RSC, LGC, CG, SG, KUO, DFH, HSU, LEP, MTL, YOM, MS, PW, JXP, CW, SUH, TS, HST SCORE: CPE, LGC, SG, Hagiya, Nakahara, Sato, Mason, Casley Erik Muller's account EXM@Sail should be moved to account 2-DMA797 (Manna's Tablog project) at least back to February 1 -- he has been there for over a year. Taleen's account TAL@SAIL should no longer be charged to McCarthy. It may be that somebody else would like to pick it up. Given that Ross Casley has been working with Vaughan Pratt for over a year that Pratt has no funds, and that Casley is doing his research on SAIL, account RTC@SAIL should be charged to CSD (e.g. 1-DMA601) effective 1 Feb. '87. In similar style, Leslie Kaelbling's account Pack@Score should be moved to a CSD account (e.g. 1-DAM601). I will try to get her to move to Sushi shortly. The following accounts should be moved to account 2-DMA705 (Qlisp) from wherever they have been charged, effective 1 Feb '87. SAIL: RPG, RLG, IAM and whatever part of LES was charged to 2-DMA 762. The following accounts should be moved to account 2-DMA901 (EBOS) from wherever they have been charged, effective 1 Feb '87. SAIL: AIR, GRP Enough for now! Les

PDheader:1987-03-21 21:52:00-08:00 7d8993754236d80e21706fd02a9e2941 ∂21-Mar-87 2152 CLT Computer Account Changes

HST should not be flushed, if I put him on the list it was a mistake.

PDheader:1987-03-22 22:30:00-08:00 56eb91947025ac302f46db8966828580 ∂22-Mar-87 2230 LES Hold one. To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Regarding the hit list I sent you on Saturday, there seems to be one change.

PDheader:1987-03-23 08:07:00-08:00 e06f878427a185dd27ce2a090bb7722a ∂23-Mar-87 0807 BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Casley Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 23 Mar 87 08:07:03 PST Date: Mon 23 Mar 87 08:05:08-PST From: Betty Scott <BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Casley Accounts To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Thu 19 Mar 87 19:54:00-PST Message-ID: <12288699984.13.BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, Ross Casley is being supported by the "Parallel Computing" gift. Nils o.k.'d this. So I see no reason why the same funds can't pay for his computing. Do you think we ought to transfer some of the charges from McCarthy to this account? I'll ask Lynn to change the charge account immediately. Betty -------

PDheader:1987-03-23 12:29:00-08:00 61ad0f76b2bdbc08171a1c54928f0ccf ∂23-Mar-87 1229 LES re: Casley Accounts To: BSCOTT@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Mon 23 Mar 87 08:05:08-PST.]

Inasmuch as Casley was being charged to a DARPA account that was closed effective 1/31/87, there is little point in literally backing out the charges, but a "quid pro quo" would not be objectionable. I believe that it is more accurate to say the Casley is being supported by departmental gift funds. We should make no distinction between sources and should not regard a particular donation as belonging to anyone other than the Chairman, considering the fact that it was not given with such a stipulation and that if there had been such a constraint there would have been tax penalties to the donor. Les

PDheader:1987-03-25 15:28:00-08:00 841e4eafc8c710f1ce9b487bb43704f5 ∂25-Mar-87 1528 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU restored accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 25 Mar 87 15:28:02 PST Date: Wed 25 Mar 87 15:22:21-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: restored accounts To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12289303865.27.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, Both <karnicky@Score> and <G.Figmo@Score> have been restored. Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-03-26 08:24:00-08:00 897cb29c07a91fc533471503502864f2 ∂26-Mar-87 0824 RPG My SAIL Account To: LES, JMC Gentlemen:

Lynn Gotelli wrote me: ``Richard, If you can convince Les or John that other funds here at Stanford should continue to pay for your <RPG@Sail> please have one of them send me a message authorizing me to charge your usage to a university budget account number. Thanks, Lynn'' If one of you feels thus convinced, could you please mail her such a note?

PDheader:1987-03-26 11:57:00-08:00 9ba32c45f1aad17395fd4389dc447497 ∂26-Mar-87 1157 HAYES@SPAR-20.ARPA re: Chair Presentation Received: from SPAR-20.ARPA by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 26 Mar 87 11:57:50 PST Date: Thu 26 Mar 87 11:59:02-PST From: PAT <HAYES@SPAR-20.ARPA> Subject: re: Chair Presentation To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU cc: HAYES@SPAR-20.ARPA In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Thu 26 Mar 87 11:23:00-PST Message-ID: <12289528997.27.HAYES@SPAR-20.ARPA>

Unfortunately I probably wont have time on Friday either. We have a series of allday inhouse demos all this week and I have to fly away next week to give lots of talks, some as yet unprepared.. Thanks for the invite, and let me know when anything else is happening. I guess I dont have any plans to use the SAIL account. I wasnt aware I still had it, to tell the truth. Does having it give me any advantages which being able to email doesnt? For example, I guess I can email from there, which might be useful on occassion. If the account is of nontrivial cost to anyone, then better wipe it, but if its harmless, why not leave it there. Pat -------

PDheader:1987-03-26 12:59:00-08:00 54486bef2fdf541c80720a42ef776720 ∂26-Mar-87 1259 LES RPG account To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: RPG@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, JMC@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

Dick Gabriel is a subcontractor on the Qlisp project so, as stated in my message of 21-Mar, the RPG account should be charged to account 2-DMA705. It might have been simpler to have asked me directly instead of asking Dick to ask me. -Les

PDheader:1987-03-26 13:18:00-08:00 a130b7193bbe984cd36a6a68377cb7a8 ∂26-Mar-87 1318 LES Avitzur account

Any further developments on this one?

PDheader:1987-03-26 13:20:00-08:00 f1f9657a0a1e557510c8476bd3b7130c ∂26-Mar-87 1320 LES Outside Account for Gray To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

In case there is a question, this looks reasonable to me. -Les

PDheader:1987-03-26 13:41:00-08:00 7fc6b14d40c866a29bc0e36b9b18a3b8 ∂26-Mar-87 1341 JMC rww account To: LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: RWW@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

My opinion is that a temporary overhead account for RWW can be justified by his maintenance of FOL which a number of people are still using. When he gets another grant, the charge should be switched to it.

PDheader:1987-03-26 14:27:00-08:00 0e8c8052d2985cc685f3f55135ec5386 ∂26-Mar-87 1427 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Disaster Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 26 Mar 87 14:27:35 PST Date: Thu 26 Mar 87 14:25:21-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Disaster To: Damon@Score.Stanford.EDU, Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: ME@Sail.Stanford.EDU, kolk@Navajo.Stanford.EDU, Tom@Score.Stanford.EDU,

Woodward@Score.Stanford.EDU, Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12289555633.22.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Damon, Les has pointed out that it appears the 1/87 csd-cf usage billing was computed at the "old" rates. Before I change the "Rates" database to the current rates (effective 1/1/87) I will wait for you to return. Just in case I looked in the wrong place. Assuming the error was made can we adjust CPU and disk space charges on the 2/87 billing? Thanks, Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-03-26 14:49:00-08:00 2e24b50d2c56bf0b426c5ce0bb8d99ef ∂26-Mar-87 1449 CLT

PDheader:1987-03-26 15:08:00-08:00 a4d0a9a6cecb653051aa2fa5149bb4ff ∂26-Mar-87 1508 LES re: RPG account To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Thu 26 Mar 87 13:38:34-PST.]

RPG should be on 2DMA705 (Qlisp) for 1/87, given that there is no money left in the old account.

PDheader:1987-03-26 15:12:00-08:00 bc4881965282e3cce7023734a6705f53 ∂26-Mar-87 1512 LES RWW account To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, RWW@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, JMC@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

Richard Weyhrauch's account RWW@Sail should be made into a CSD-CF overhead account, to be used for maintenance of the FOL program. -Les

PDheader:1987-03-27 11:12:00-08:00 1f288f67652ba02b9501732170e21b8c ∂27-Mar-87 1112 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Computer Account Changes Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 27 Mar 87 11:12:01 PST Date: Fri 27 Mar 87 11:09:59-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Computer Account Changes To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Sat 21 Mar 87 17:33:00-PST Message-ID: <12289782213.14.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

All changes have been made and accounts closed as requested. I agree. Enough for now! Thanks, Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-03-29 12:02:00-08:00 7ac1605db6788f97dfd44a6831750fe7 ∂29-Mar-87 1202 JJW To: LES, ME

Does this look suspicious to you? MLG's Telnet connection was to UMN-CS.ARPA. Her password is not obvious, however. .fing Person Job Jobnam Idle Terminal JJW Joe Weening 1 FINGER TTY-50 2400 modem 415 321-5616 MLG Maria Gini 4 TELNET PTY161 LOTS Two 1-1-7 ↑C .da 4 Login Run Now 11:53 11:55 11:55

PDheader:1987-03-31 07:43:00-08:00 9218c39b58821b4b2cffe6570e14fd5a ∂31-Mar-87 0743 GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU account Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 31 Mar 87 07:43:17 PST Date: Tue 31 Mar 87 07:40:58-PST From: Gene H. Golub <GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: account To: Les@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, na.bjorstad@Score.Stanford.EDU Phone: 415/723-3124 Message-ID: <12290792739.12.GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Please keep up the account for Petter Bjorstad and charge to my unrestricted funds. Gene -------

PDheader:1987-04-01 17:23:00-08:00 66133cf35ac4c843d7c1af1c82b74c6a ∂01-Apr-87 1723 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Ellis@Score Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 1 Apr 87 17:23:41 PST Date: Wed 1 Apr 87 17:21:19-PST From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Ellis@Score To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12291160531.24.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I don't recall seeing a message from you that the <Ellis@Score> off campus computer account has been extended till 6/30. Wade Ellis sent you a message on 3/20 I think requesting an extension. I have closed <Lodi@Score> the other computer account that you did extend till 3/31/87. Thanks, Lynn P.S. I apologize if you already sent me this information but I don't have any record of your message. -------

PDheader:1987-04-03 18:01:00-08:00 c38dd7449116c02df793013dfbf03b75 ∂03-Apr-87 1801 ELLIS@Score.Stanford.EDU Account Extension Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 3 Apr 87 18:01:06 PST Date: Fri 3 Apr 87 17:58:42-PST From: Wade Ellis <ELLIS@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Account Extension To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: Ellis@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12291691626.39.ELLIS@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Professor Earnest: As per our converstion on April 3, 1987, we are requesting an extension through the Spring quarter of our account (ELLIS) on SCORE. Our request for this extension arises because we have not yet completed our book. Thank you very much for considering this request. Sincerely, Wade Ellis -------

PDheader:1987-04-05 13:56:00-07:00 07c9e14ebee6b01462c750f708de5e4f ∂05-Apr-87 1356 LES re: Account Extension To: ELLIS@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 3 Apr 87 17:58:42-PST.]

OK, you are cleared to June 15. -Les Earnest

PDheader:1987-04-05 14:03:00-07:00 8dff5f585663345b5030d55c68a2b66a ∂05-Apr-87 1403 LES Ellis@Score Account To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

FYI. They finally got their story straight. -Les

PDheader:1987-04-05 19:25:00-07:00 d9b7691b28594207917eafb00ba3091f ∂05-Apr-87 1925 KARNICKY@Score.Stanford.EDU you can close the KARNICKY@SCORE directory now Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 5 Apr 87 19:25:52 PDT Date: Sun 5 Apr 87 19:23:26-PDT From: Joe Karnicky <KARNICKY@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: you can close the KARNICKY@SCORE directory now To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: billw@Score.Stanford.EDU, gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU,

karnicky@CRVAX.SRI.COM Message-ID: <12292220415.12.KARNICKY@Score.Stanford.EDU> I've done everything I needed to do. Thanks for your cooperation. If you need to get in touch I'll be KARNICKY@CRVAX.SRI.COM Joe -------

PDheader:1987-04-05 20:24:00-07:00 329f443cfe8a8f8dc545fc9bea4ae725 ∂05-Apr-87 2024 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU CHARGE programs Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 5 Apr 87 20:24:07 PDT Date: Sun 5 Apr 87 20:21:30-PDT From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: CHARGE programs To: tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU, gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU,

billw@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12292230986.14.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> The old CHARGE program on SCORE now uses the proper rates for Jan, Feb, and March. The new CHARGE program will be available after I run the March billing. It will show you charges for all machines and all printers (including adjustments and refunds). It will show you charges for those months for which the accounting program has been run (not the current month) after January 1987. Users can use the old CHARGE program on SCORE to see their charges for the month in progress. The new CHARGE database will make it possible to do other useful things. It will enable you to examine old summary-sheet data online. This may make your life a bit easier. For instance, if Lynn gets a call from an irate user, she no longer need rush to the filing cabinet and pull out the summary sheets to look him/her up. She will just be able to call up the user's entry on the screen for the particular month. It will be easy for me to add features so you can query the database in different ways - for instance ask "what were the charges incurred by some subset of 9-DMA078 users over the period January through March of 1987". The program could print out some reports that look like the summary sheets, but for the particular users and time period desired (or you could just see it on the screen). If these ideas sound useful to you (and/or other features), please tell me and I shall implement them in the first version. Daemon -------

PDheader:1987-04-08 23:06:00-07:00 8b280e6522c63877a731a23c0858d8c4 ∂08-Apr-87 2306 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU CHARGE program Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 8 Apr 87 23:06:02 PDT Date: Wed 8 Apr 87 23:03:30-PDT From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: CHARGE program To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU, tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12293046909.11.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

...more fun ...I was checking some accounts to make sure they were getting the correct refund for January's overbilling, and came across the TEX account. I just about had a heart attack when the amount we billed for TEX files did not match what the CHARGE program gave as the amount to bill. I was looking at disk usage here. I thought "oh no the disk usages were wrong, not just the rates" for January, so I checked out the TEX directories manually (there are 20 of them). It turns out that we did bill for the correct amount of disk space (though we used the wrong rate and so got the wrong dollar amount). The CHARGE program gives correct disk amounts for some of the TEX subdirectories and completely incorrect disk amounts for some others (when checked against the original binary files). The moral of this story is, if a user complains that our bill does not match the CHARGE program on SCORE, well, the CHARGE program is probably wrong (as it is for TEX). This makes me just that much more anxious to nuke the old CHARGE program. It will give me great pleasure to do so. Daemon -------

PDheader:1987-04-09 10:59:00-07:00 8cf769d5a9a8d801d9bff60de668b2c4 ∂09-Apr-87 1059 kolk@navajo.stanford.edu johnh's accounting Received: from NAVAJO.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 9 Apr 87 10:58:56 PDT Received: by navajo.stanford.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 87 10:58:08 PST Date: Thu, 9 Apr 87 10:58:08 PST From: Dan Kolkowitz <kolk@navajo.stanford.edu> Subject: johnh's accounting To: bscott@score.stanford.edu, guibas@navajo.stanford.edu,

les@navajo.stanford.edu I gave John Herschberger a break down of all of his activity for Sep-Dec. 1986. It is all correct and I do not understand the assertion that it is incorrect. Dan

PDheader:1987-04-13 14:57:00-07:00 d0d4acfb847b2c098b52034beeef2297 ∂13-Apr-87 1457 LES AR@SAIL To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Please close the subject account immediately. He is being charged to McCarthy but has never done anything and doesn't answer email.

PDheader:1987-04-22 12:20:00-07:00 d8c64cfe5b8642dd418e9b906f3eb597 ∂22-Apr-87 1220 LES re: Cisco Computer Account To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Wed 22 Apr 87 11:24:43-PDT.]

Yes, I agree that cisco should not have to pay for computer use after their account was frozen. In fact, they should not have been billed. As I recall, we have been over this territory before in the case of Ibuki and possibly others. Les

PDheader:1987-04-24 08:09:00-07:00 055caadfea23398b36947ea41806926a ∂24-Apr-87 0809 TOM@Score.Stanford.EDU jeeves accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 24 Apr 87 08:09:36 PDT Date: Fri 24 Apr 87 08:06:11-PDT From: Thomas Dienstbier <TOM@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: jeeves accounts To: kolk@Navajo.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12297077863.21.TOM@Score.Stanford.EDU>

I talked with Lynn early this morning about Jeeves accounts. She has not received any requests for accounts on this machine. Dan, you must know who does have accounts and approximately when they were opened I hope. We are only concerned beginning 1jan. Bytheway Steve has gotten Sun's distribution tapes so hopefully we can continue on the sun2/50 problem. tom -------

PDheader:1987-04-28 16:12:00-07:00 a9f013a501576a98e6dc4f1064e18538 ∂28-Apr-87 1612 DEK $5 per month!

As usual, CSD-CF seems to have sent retroactive charges, so that we don't know things are costing until the bill comes two months later. I understood that the dept had a policy that our alumni could have token accounts for mail etc., forever, as a gesture of goodwill. I don't remember ever hearing a discussion that this policy was being terminated. Some such alumni accounts had been billed to me, for historical reasons (I had been supporting the students when they graduated). The expense to me was approximately 4 cents per month per student, so I considered this reasonable. Now suddenly I find that I've been assessed $5/month/student, starting some time in the past, and that multiplies up fast especially when I don't believe I was ever told in advance of the charges. And I find that Lynn G is gone until May 18, so I have no way to turn off the faucet either? I'm writing to you so that you can delegate to the appropriate person the following: Please cancel the following account as of January [sic] 1987. Also send a note by hardcopy or whatever apologizing for not being able to be courteous any more about computer accounts because the CSD has grown etc. Daniel H. Green (GREENE at SCORE) Samuel W. Bent (SWB at SAIL) John D. Hobby (JDH at SAIL) Scott Kim (SEK at SAIL) Frank Liang (FML at SAIL) Michael Plass (MFP at SAIL) Luis Trabb-Pardo (LTP at SAIL) Chris Van Wyk (CVW at SAIL) Also cancel PDQ at SAIL (Paul D. Quin). I don't know who he is; somebody told me once, and it seemed OK at the time, but I've forgotten and I'm sure he isn't doing anything the NSF now wants to support. Let's hope that none of these alumni are going to be millionaires who someday decide to contribute to some other institution instead of Stanford!

PDheader:1987-05-01 17:13:00-07:00 c0c43fbe084b42fb1ef6207a861c5539 ∂01-May-87 1713 LES re: $5 per month! To: DEK [In reply to message rcvd 28-Apr-87 16:12-PT.]

Sorry for the slow response. We will convert those on your list who are still active to departmental accounts. We will generate no more bills till Lynn returns and will get the faucet closed before then. By FINGERing the accounts you listed, I see that several of them have not run in over a year and probably should be flushed -- specifically, SWB, SEK, and LTP (who hasn't run since July 1984). CVW does not appear of have a SAIL account, so I am puzzled about how there could be charges for him. Incidentally, MFP hasn't run since October 1986. It appears to me that only the accounts of Greene, SWB, FML, and possibly MFP should be retained. Right?

PDheader:1987-05-05 18:06:00-07:00 486efcaf22233186a84fcded9dcf9709 ∂05-May-87 1806 JDLH@Sushi.Stanford.EDU CSD-CF guest accts for corporations? Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 5 May 87 18:06:47 PDT Date: Tue 5 May 87 17:49:49-PDT From: Jim DeLaHunt <JDLH@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: CSD-CF guest accts for corporations? To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12300067693.14.JDLH@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

I am doing some work for a Palo Alto startup who would like to get a guest account on some Stanford computer. They want to advertise on bboards for students, read netnews, test dialups (they are writing telecommunications software), and be in contact with the community; they are not interested in programming or storing lots of files or otherwise burning resources. Can CSD-CF help them? If not, does EE-CF or (gods forbid) ITS? Whom should I ask? --Jim DeLaHunt JDLH @ Sushi -------

PDheader:1987-05-07 16:20:00-07:00 9cabaec6bca1ab4141311885809dcc63 ∂07-May-87 1620 GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU [Gene H. Golub <GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU>: New account] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 7 May 87 16:20:44 PDT Date: Thu 7 May 87 16:13:53-PDT From: Gene H. Golub <GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Gene H. Golub <GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU>: New account] To: billw@Score.Stanford.EDU, reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: les@Score.Stanford.EDU Phone: 415/723-3124 Message-ID: <12300574516.22.GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Can one of you open this account. Lynn Gotelli is away. Thanks. Gene --------------- Date: Wed 6 May 87 23:14:07-PDT From: Gene H. Golub <GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: New account To: GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Phone: 415/723-3124 Message-ID: <12300388875.13.GOLUB@Score.Stanford.EDU> Please set up a new account for John Holt. Login: Holt , Password: Queensland. Computer: Navajo Account: NSF. Thanks. Gene ------- -------

PDheader:1987-05-11 16:04:00-07:00 599148e43266ecf9da020bb23554a3e1 ∂11-May-87 1604 LES Sail Account changes To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, Tom@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Please close Sail accounts SWB, SEK, LTP, and GHB and convert accounts FML and MFP to overhead, effective as far back as possible.

PDheader:1987-05-11 16:14:00-07:00 472d170c2fd1b5c53eb9293da8f86834 ∂11-May-87 1614 LES Account move from Score to Sushi To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, Reuling@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU,

Greene@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: billw@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, Tom@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Lynn: please close account Greene@score, belonging to Dan Greene. John: please open account Greene@sushi so that he can move there, saving CSD money.

PDheader:1987-05-11 16:35:00-07:00 a056790076b0ab5c185f053f2bdeb2a9 ∂11-May-87 1635 LES More Sail Account changes To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU, Tom@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Also please close PDQ@Sail and change JDH@Sail to an overhead account. -Les

PDheader:1987-05-19 02:52:00-07:00 62ff9d56c99c77edc3936dbed9ceea48 ∂19-May-87 0252 edsel!rainbow-warrior!ejg@navajo.stanford.edu SAIL account Received: from NAVAJO.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 19 May 87 02:51:55 PDT Received: by navajo.stanford.edu; Tue, 19 May 87 02:49:31 PDT Received: from rainbow-warrior.edsel.uucp by edsel.uucp (2.2/SMI-2.0) id AA21080; Mon, 18 May 87 17:57:04 pdt Received: by rainbow-warrior.edsel.uucp (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA12897; Mon, 18 May 87 17:57:26 PDT Date: Mon, 18 May 87 17:57:26 PDT From: edsel!rainbow-warrior!ejg@navajo.stanford.edu (Erik Gilbert) Message-Id: <8705190057.AA12897@rainbow-warrior.edsel.uucp> To: navajo!LES%sail@navajo.stanford.edu Subject: SAIL account

Les, per our phone conversation of today, I'd like to request that my SAIL account (EJG) be un-flushed and made available again for my (very) limited use. In the past couple of years, I've only used it about once a month or less, for mail and FTP purposes. I guess the right category for me these days is PhD alumnus (I think that used to be an official category, anyway). Thanks very much, - Erik Gilbert

PDheader:1987-05-22 09:58:00-07:00 2f9b7765d2b7bf63e9769149e3e98d5b ∂22-May-87 0958 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Jeeves Accounts Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 22 May 87 09:58:01 PDT Date: Fri 22 May 87 09:45:06-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Jeeves Accounts To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, Tom@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12304435902.10.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

FYI..Yesterday Dan gave me a list of the Jeeves users and I sent messages to all (Keith Lantz, David Ungar, Zohar Manna, Vaughn Pratt) requesting an account number to bill for their workstation partition space on Jeeves. As soon as I have their account numbers I will have Damon run the 3/87 usage and printer billing. Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-05-22 11:39:00-07:00 ef5ff53fbca12e9a420f9f141803080f ∂22-May-87 1139 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Rebecca Lasher Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 22 May 87 11:39:35 PDT Date: Fri 22 May 87 11:33:30-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Rebecca Lasher To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12304455636.10.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, Rebecca, the new Math/CS Librarian has requested a Score account. May I give her one and charge it to overhead as we did for her predecessor? By the way, may I at this time close Harry Llull's Score account? Thanks, Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-05-22 12:23:00-07:00 d4885f00bc38b668c7f31915ba3cb61a ∂22-May-87 1223 LES re: Rebecca Lasher To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 22 May 87 11:33:30-PDT.]

Yes, give her an overhead account. Leave Harry Llull's in place for now -- he is supposedly using it to "keep in touch" in much the same way as our former PhD students.

PDheader:1987-05-22 12:37:00-07:00 3c07096ed0099fbbe1b2cf7d7d648cc4 ∂22-May-87 1237 LES EJG@Sail To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: ME@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU

Please restart Erik Gilbert's account EJG@Sail and charge to overhead.

PDheader:1987-05-28 11:40:00-07:00 7b7ded359e6166872411af532debfceb ∂28-May-87 1140 @Score.Stanford.EDU:REULING@Sushi.Stanford.EDU Fung Fung Lee (Lee@sushi) Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 28 May 87 11:39:55 PDT Received: from Sushi.Stanford.EDU by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Thu 28 May 87 11:33:19-PDT Date: 28 May 1987 11:32 PDT (Thu) Message-ID: <REULING.12306028335.BABYL@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU> From: John Reuling <REULING@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> To: Tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, Les@Score.Stanford.EDU Subject: Fung Fung Lee (Lee@sushi)

Do you have any info on this account? We're cleaning house & not sure whether this one is supposed to stay around. Thanks. -John > Date: Tuesday, 26 May 1987 13:20-PDT > From: Diane C. Patterson <DIANE> > To: reuling > Re: [BILLW: Re: Fung Fung Lee (LEE)] > Office: 030 Margaret Jacks Hall (John Reuling) 5-5555 > Title: Accounts Manager > > This concerns an account sponsored by BillW (LEE@sushi). This is his > explanation for why this account was created. > > --------------- > > Date: 26 May 1987 13:10-PDT > Sender: BILLW@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU > Subject: Re: Fung Fung Lee (LEE) > From: William "Chops" Westfield <BillW@Score.Stanford.edu> > To: DIANE@Sushi.Stanford.EDU > > He uses Sushi to transfer files to the NCube. I don't know what the > status of this is. > > BilLW

PDheader:1987-05-28 12:53:00-07:00 8dd1c872aa91cb5493d476d69ce7c02d ∂28-May-87 1253 LES re: Fung Fung Lee (Lee@sushi) To: REULING@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent 28 May 1987 11:32 PDT.]

I know nothing of this account. If he isn't one of ours, he shouldn't be there.

PDheader:1987-06-01 19:15:00-07:00 0c001f04b4934dfca31b3b65b5488069 ∂01-Jun-87 1915 ASHOK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU [Philip Andrew <andrew@portia.Stanford.EDU>: Re: Accounts on Portia] Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 1 Jun 87 19:15:06 PDT Date: Mon 1 Jun 87 19:12:26-PDT From: Ashok Subramanian <ashok@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [Philip Andrew <andrew@portia.Stanford.EDU>: Re: Accounts on Portia] To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12307160621.19.ASHOK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

Not so simple --ashok --------------- Return-Path: <andrew@portia.Stanford.EDU> Received: from portia.Stanford.EDU by Sushi.Stanford.EDU with TCP; Mon 1 Jun 87 19:00:21-PDT Received: by portia.Stanford.EDU; Mon, 1 Jun 87 18:59:59 PDT Date: 1 Jun 1987 1859-PDT (Monday) From: Philip Andrew <andrew@portia.Stanford.EDU> To: Ashok Subramanian <ashok@sushi.stanford.edu> Cc: accounts@portia.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: Accounts on Portia In-Reply-To: Ashok Subramanian <ashok@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> / Mon 1 Jun 87 18:56:29-PDT. <12307157718.19.ASHOK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> In order to get a Portia account, you must demonstrate a need for UNIX services -- either by getting a faculty research sponsorship and indicating the reason that you need UNIX for your research, or by being enrolled in a class that is currently using Portia. Philip Andrew LOTS Faculty Liaison -------

PDheader:1987-06-05 11:57:00-07:00 4e859f8e9488699e234a635aa66377bd ∂05-Jun-87 1157 PATASHNIK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU My score account Received: from SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 5 Jun 87 11:57:52 PDT Date: Fri 5 Jun 87 11:54:04-PDT From: Oren Patashnik <PATASHNIK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU> Subject: My score account To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12308129396.11.PATASHNIK@Sushi.Stanford.EDU>

Please charge my score account to overhead, since I use it only to maintain BibTeX. Thanks. --Oren -------

PDheader:1987-06-05 16:09:00-07:00 f90d970d4ec244e7825ccafd9c3aac4e ∂05-Jun-87 1609 LES Patashnik@Score To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Oren says that the sole use of his Score account is to maintain portions of TeX, so on that basis, his account should be overhead. Sounds right. Les

PDheader:1987-06-09 09:31:00-07:00 52858aaf62698a06eb6ad4bc985c1e00 ∂09-Jun-87 0931 TOM@Score.Stanford.EDU MJH Ethernet connection charge Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 9 Jun 87 09:30:59 PDT Date: Tue 9 Jun 87 09:27:08-PDT From: Thomas Dienstbier <TOM@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: MJH Ethernet connection charge To: faculty@Score.Stanford.EDU cc: tom@Score.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12309151222.32.TOM@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Subject: Net connections charge process. Some of you perhaps are probably not sure how CSDCF comes up with list of hosts that are connected to the Margaret Jacks Hall networks; I will try and explain. MJH has a large assortment of hosts that are connected to the network. Most of these hosts are installed by CSD-CF. After installation, our only means of keeping track of these hosts is by monitoring the "host tables". This "host table" lives on ACIS Networking VAX11/750 called ARGUS. In order for your host to function properly as a network device, it must be registered in this table. This "host table" has most of the pertinent information on devices that are connected to nets 10 and 36 and which are registered. You may do a @whois "host name" on a Tops 20 machine or whois -h argus "host name" on a Unix machine to see what the data base knows about your host. Most workstations/Vax's are charged $30.00 per connection and the larger hosts are charged $300.00( dec2060's). These are monthly charges. The revenue from these connections are used for the maintenance, trouble-shooting and expansion of the MJH Ethernets. If you have further questions please feel free to contact me. tom -------

PDheader:1987-06-10 16:10:00-07:00 08948e74818eca6ef218f2a5e90b38fb ∂10-Jun-87 1610 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU First Three Month Report Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 10 Jun 87 16:10:19 PDT Date: Wed 10 Jun 87 16:07:36-PDT From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: First Three Month Report To: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12309486269.41.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Here it is: NOTE: First column of numbers represents the TOTAL PENNIES charged for that machine for that category of usage. Second column of numbers represents the TOTAL RESOURCE USAGE corresponding to that dollar amount (for cpu it is number of cpu-minutes, for job it is number of job-hours, for disk it is number of megabits). Note also that NAVAJO cpu data was screwy for January and February (go by the March figures for a more accurate estimate of future use). Also note that Navajo disk data was VERY screwy for February (don't even look at that figure - go by March). ONE MORE NOTE -- the figures below represent all users that appear on the summary sheets (including those charged to DMA078 which do not generate income for the department). The fraction of the below that generated income was (within half a percent) 66.0% each month (so you need to make this adjustment when making projections). If you want to see a report like the below for just non-facilities users, I can prepare one. January SCORE Acpu 1025770 3663.46 Bcpu 268283 1437.23 Ccpu 187781 2011.94 Ajob 588453 5884.53 Bjob 90924 1363.86 Cjob 51859 1555.77 Disk 1003516 3998.07 SAIL Acpu 422411 1508.61 Bcpu 157258 842.45 Ccpu 100776 1079.74 Ajob 248427 2484.27 Bjob 63799 956.98 Cjob 21921 657.63 Disk 2293496 9137.43 NAVAJO Acpu 1651223 11879.30 Bcpu 476681 5144.04 Ccpu 160784 3470.16 Ajob 231499 2314.99 Bjob 74219 1113.28 Cjob 43514 1305.42 Disk 582226 2772.50 LABREA Acpu 23338 162.07 Bcpu 1570 16.35 Ccpu 1300 27.08 Ajob 30209 302.09 Bjob 10716 160.74 Cjob 9226 276.78 Disk 95018 2159.50 February SCORE Acpu 693578 3124.23 Bcpu 213779 1444.45 Ccpu 129884 1755.19 Ajob 601902 6019.02 Bjob 104777 1571.65 Cjob 59487 1784.61 Disk 773465 3886.76 SAIL Acpu 330829 1490.22 Bcpu 138217 933.90 Ccpu 67166 907.65 Ajob 248606 2486.06 Bjob 71666 1074.99 Cjob 22481 674.43 Disk 1731977 8703.40 NAVAJO Acpu 945186 13127.58 Bcpu 233076 4855.75 Ccpu 94120 3921.67 Ajob 227683 2276.83 Bjob 72531 1087.96 Cjob 35798 1073.94 Disk 11845 100.38 LABREA Acpu 77147 535.74 Bcpu 18375 191.41 Ccpu 22169 461.85 Ajob 17830 178.30 Bjob 6260 93.90 Cjob 4704 141.12 Disk 99287 2256.52 March SCORE Acpu 863618 3890.17 Bcpu 152368 1029.51 Ccpu 108955 1472.36 Ajob 639028 6390.28 Bjob 95003 1425.04 Cjob 50173 1505.19 Disk 806604 4053.29 SAIL Acpu 397976 1792.68 Bcpu 116051 784.13 Ccpu 65385 883.58 Ajob 266432 2664.32 Bjob 75491 1132.36 Cjob 26644 799.32 Disk 1805860 9074.67 NAVAJO Acpu 249973 3471.85 Bcpu 78222 1629.63 Ccpu 31040 1293.33 Ajob 203176 2031.76 Bjob 52839 792.58 Cjob 27215 816.45 Disk 369783 3133.75 LABREA Acpu 9408 65.33 Bcpu 2918 30.40 Ccpu 1961 40.85 Ajob 6564 65.64 Bjob 2349 35.23 Cjob 1023 30.69 Disk 115484 2624.64 -------

PDheader:1987-06-10 16:45:00-07:00 ab2d6b39bb78af8a042ffb1f800c8ca2 ∂10-Jun-87 1645 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU More on projections... Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 10 Jun 87 16:44:24 PDT Date: Wed 10 Jun 87 16:41:21-PDT From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: More on projections... To: tom@Score.Stanford.EDU, gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU, les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12309492412.41.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

...here is the same format report for non-overhead people... If you like, I would be glad to calculate what I think the projected income would be given the new rates (just to double-check my figures). Daemon January SCORE Acpu 783271 2797.40 Bcpu 172629 924.80 Ccpu 106092 1136.70 Ajob 435286 4352.86 Bjob 55758 836.37 Cjob 26067 782.01 Disk 654858 2609.00 SAIL Acpu 287277 1025.99 Bcpu 86359 462.64 Ccpu 35168 376.80 Ajob 218635 2186.35 Bjob 52271 784.06 Cjob 17880 536.40 Disk 827122 3295.31 NAVAJO Acpu 1495991 10762.53 Bcpu 432011 4661.99 Ccpu 145873 3148.34 Ajob 167883 1678.83 Bjob 53886 808.29 Cjob 26602 798.06 Disk 527630 2512.52 LABREA Acpu 14497 100.67 Bcpu 852 8.88 Ccpu 202 4.21 Ajob 8808 88.08 Bjob 696 10.44 Cjob 540 16.20 Disk 72585 1649.66 February SCORE Acpu 549272 2474.20 Bcpu 129149 872.63 Ccpu 67651 914.20 Ajob 440132 4401.32 Bjob 62905 943.57 Cjob 29020 870.60 Disk 506782 2546.64 SAIL Acpu 234648 1056.97 Bcpu 80601 544.60 Ccpu 20003 270.31 Ajob 220178 2201.78 Bjob 56893 853.39 Cjob 17719 531.57 Disk 556564 2796.80 NAVAJO Acpu 841952 11693.78 Bcpu 220708 4598.08 Ccpu 88541 3689.21 Ajob 170292 1702.92 Bjob 52881 793.21 Cjob 21705 651.15 Disk 10581 89.67 LABREA Acpu 22774 158.15 Bcpu 6600 68.75 Ccpu 2810 58.54 Ajob 3307 33.07 Bjob 1466 21.99 Cjob 674 20.22 Disk 66581 1513.20 March SCORE Acpu 683193 3077.45 Bcpu 99331 671.16 Ccpu 59393 802.61 Ajob 478857 4788.57 Bjob 61260 918.90 Cjob 25648 769.44 Disk 538636 2706.71 SAIL Acpu 266549 1200.67 Bcpu 69453 469.28 Ccpu 22375 302.36 Ajob 225003 2250.03 Bjob 63623 954.34 Cjob 22356 670.68 Disk 564070 2834.52 NAVAJO Acpu 230377 3199.68 Bcpu 75759 1578.31 Ccpu 29672 1236.33 Ajob 147131 1471.31 Bjob 38480 577.20 Cjob 14215 426.45 Disk 329492 2792.31 LABREA Acpu 1923 13.35 Bcpu 390 4.06 Ccpu 12 .25 Ajob 4184 41.84 Bjob 1262 18.93 Cjob 347 10.41 Disk 75585 1717.84 -------

PDheader:1987-06-11 10:20:00-07:00 cb1e30547cc4d345dad98d1b9cb6b885 ∂11-Jun-87 1020 KHOWARD@Score.Stanford.EDU message Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 11 Jun 87 10:20:43 PDT Date: Thu 11 Jun 87 10:17:30-PDT From: Katherine Howard <KHOWARD@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: message To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12309684680.43.KHOWARD@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Cleve Moler would like you to call him at (408) 732-0400. --Kathy -------

PDheader:1987-06-17 18:30:00-07:00 62c2066563c6ff71bae4491fa4cc4dac ∂17-Jun-87 1830 @Score.Stanford.EDU:LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CSD-CF charge rates and other plans Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 17 Jun 87 18:30:19 PDT Received: from SAIL.STANFORD.EDU by SU-SCORE.ARPA with TCP; Wed 17 Jun 87 18:25:32-PDT Date: 17 Jun 87 1828 PDT From: Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: CSD-CF charge rates and other plans To: Faculty@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, su-computers@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU,

CSD@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU CC: Tom@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU This is a status report on CSD-CF, including new charge rates for SAIL and Navajo computers and possible future changes in service offerings. Our search for a new director concluded recently with the selection of James Ball, who has substantial experience in the management of computer and digital communications facilities, most recently at BBN in Cambridge. Jim has informally accepted and expects to begin around August 3. Services There are several Sun 2/50 workstations, each with 3 meg. memory, that can be made available to projects at a cost of about $300/month. These are useful Unix workstations now that the Jeeves fileserver is in operation. Interleaf text perparation software also can be made available on these machines. As shown in the attached rate sheet, disk storage on LaBrea costs much less that on other machines -- less than 1/4 of the Score rate, 1/6 of the Navajo rate, and 1/8 of the SAIL rate. Nevertheless, LaBrea is underutilized. Users can save much of their disk charges by moving infrequently used files to LaBrea. Quintus offers their Prolog software for up to five machines for $3k and up to ten machines for $5k. They might even give us one copy free in return for some machine access. If anyone would like to know more about their proposal, please let me know. SAIL's user disk pack (UDP) service may be discontinued soon. It costs quite a bit to maintain the Ampex channel and disks, yet these services generate no revenue. If you are dependent on UDPs in some way, you should either make plans to disengage or present a sound argument for why this service should continue. We have on order a DEC-8700, which is slated to replace Navajo and Sushi by early next year. It will be a cost center machine running Unix. Rate Changes Both income and expenses of the computer facility have been below predictions this year and the current projected net is a loss, hence some charge rates must be increased. Principal contributors to the shortfall are SAIL, where usage is down, and Navajo, for which an accounting error led to the rates being set too low. A scaling error in the Navajo's accounting system caused CPU time reports to be consistently too large. Because charge rates are based on utilization experience, this caused corresponding charge rates to be set too low. Credits for the Navajo accounting error were included in the March 1987 bills, which leaves year-to-date income for that machine much too low in relation to expenses. After reviewing these problems with Stanford accounting authorities, we plan to increase the charge rates for SAIL and Navajo computers effective May 1, 1987 in order to balance projected income and expenses. (Bills have been issued only through March so far. Yes, I know that in the last Faculty Meeting I said that I expected the rate change to take effect June 1.) Rate structures for other services remain unchanged. The proposed rates are given in the attached rate schedule. If you wish to discuss or grumble about any of this, I am available. However, I will be glacier-hopping in Alaska till July 5. Les Earnest, CSD-CF Director Pro Tem ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Science Department Computer Facility Cost Center Rates Effective May 1, 1987 A Time B Time C Time A Time B Time C Time Total Expense Weekday hours 8:00-17:59 18:00-23:59 0:00-7:59 Weekend hours 13:00-17:59 18:00-12:59 Rates Full 2/3 of A rate 1/3 of A rate JEEVES Fileserver (Sun-3/Unix) Account charge 5.00/month Disk space 1.08/megabit-mo.* NAVAJO Computer (DEC VAX-780/Unix) Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 1.78/minute 1.18/minute .59/minute Disk space 2.77/megabit-mo.* LABREA Archive (DEC VAX-750/Unix) Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 1.44/minute .96/minute .48/minute Disk space .44/megabit-mo.* SAIL Computer (DEC-10/Waits) Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 3.75/minute 2.50/minute 1.25/minute Disk space 3.54/megabit-mo.* SCORE Computer (DEC-20/TOPS-20) Account charge 5.00/month Connect time 1.00/hour .67/hour .33/hour CPU time 2.22/minute 1.48/minute .74/minute Disk space 1.99/megabit-mo.* Printers Dovers .09/page Imagen/Apple .09/page Boise .07/page Phototypsetter Page charges 4.50/page Ethernet Maintenance Workstations 30.00/month & minis Mainframes & 300.00/month bridges SUSHI Computer (DEC-20/TOPS-20) maintenance and depreciation DEC-20 8,420.00/month VAX-750 Computer Maintenance Basic VAX-750 450.00/month RA81 Disk Drive 100.00/month Ken. 9300 Tape 200.00/month Fujitsu M2351 Disk 50.00/month TU78 100.00/month CDC 9766 Contrl. 100.00/month Emulex SC758 66.00/month 8 line term. MUX 16.00/month ---------- * Note that a "megabit" is precisely 1,000,000 bits. Storage is allocated in blocks whose size is system-dependent.

PDheader:1987-06-21 23:24:00-07:00 8a0f96b204ec3c6eb7f038c7ed41c2fd ∂21-Jun-87 2324 GROSSMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU Suggested account closing Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 21 Jun 87 23:24:34 PDT Date: Sun 21 Jun 87 23:20:27-PDT From: Stu Grossman <GROSSMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Suggested account closing To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12312448651.10.GROSSMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU>

The account Satz at Score should probably be closed. He no longer works here, and has no business with the department (he's also got wheel by theh way!). Stu -------

PDheader:1987-06-22 07:50:00-07:00 f56986ac0a0a31c657c59ac7d4c25cf4 ∂22-Jun-87 0750 RICHARDSON@Score.Stanford.EDU [WILLIAM REYNOLDS <W.WCR@LEAR.STANFORD.EDU>: My SCORE account] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 22 Jun 87 07:50:16 PDT Date: Mon 22 Jun 87 07:46:19-PDT From: Anne Richardson <RICHARDSON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [WILLIAM REYNOLDS <W.WCR@LEAR.STANFORD.EDU>: My SCORE account] To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12312540741.13.RICHARDSON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I told him Nils was out of town and that I'd forward his message to you. -Anne --------------- Return-Path: <W.WCR@LEAR.STANFORD.EDU> Received: from LEAR.STANFORD.EDU by SU-SCORE.ARPA with TCP; Sat 20 Jun 87 18:51:44-PDT Date: Sat 20 Jun 87 18:48:45-PDT From: WILLIAM REYNOLDS <W.WCR@LEAR.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: My SCORE account To: Nilsson@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <12312137045.97.W.WCR@LEAR.STANFORD.EDU> MY SCORE account, used for EM on campus, has evidently been dumped. Could you get me reinstated? Need it through summer, by which time our VAX will be on SU-net. Thanks. ------- -------

PDheader:1987-06-27 13:57:00-07:00 ecc9a989aad4548b4a12c01e81c1ae63 ∂27-Jun-87 1357 DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU Electronic bills... Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 27 Jun 87 13:57:08 PDT Date: Sat 27 Jun 87 13:52:53-PDT From: Daemon Koronakos <DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Electronic bills... To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12313918193.10.DAMON@Score.Stanford.EDU>

...will be sent out for the month of May and thereafter. The TAX program has been run for May. As soon as Lynn and Betty okay the bills, I will send their electronic counterparts. Hopefully this will clear up some problems. The new charge program will work off the same database. Your subaccount charging scheme has been in place for a month and also will prove to be very useful in managing temporary fund transfers (your idea was a good one and perfectly applicable to a process Betty and Lynn go through each month juggling moneys between accounts). Daemon -------

PDheader:1987-07-06 18:13:00-07:00 43bf615d00b71cb786acd3d6b1dafd50 ∂06-Jul-87 1813 LES Satz@Score To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Grossman@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Please close, per Stu's recommendation. -Les

PDheader:1987-07-06 18:17:00-07:00 12b5898afcacb8796e4d90059a5b4dfd ∂06-Jul-87 1817 LES Reynolds@score To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

Lynn, I have no records on this guy. What do you know? Les

PDheader:1987-07-07 13:54:00-07:00 cf1cad7c4751e392213590c68ca325ff ∂07-Jul-87 1354 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Reynolds@score Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 7 Jul 87 13:54:19 PDT Date: Tue 7 Jul 87 13:49:51-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Reynolds@score To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Mon 6 Jul 87 18:17:00-PDT Message-ID: <12316539081.18.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, William C. Reynolds had a Score account for some time paid for by Joe Oliger's Classic account (2-DMA767). Around the first of May Joe sent a message to about 30 users being supported by his his Classic account. He informed them that their computer accounts were going to be closed. William Reynolds was one of these users and <reynolds@score> was closed last month. Early last week Nils sent me the almost same message you sent me. I replied to Nils that Joe Oliger was not going to pay any longer for Reynolds to have a Score account but that he would continue to pay for him to have a Navajo account. Unfortunately Reynolds has not used his Navajo account for some time and late last week all the old and unused accounts on Navajo were purged. I have asked Dan Kolkowitz to restore <reynolds@navajo> from tape and reinstate his account. Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-07-07 14:06:00-07:00 1f37a84a00a14c68f50829bea9f7c7fb ∂07-Jul-87 1406 LES re: Reynolds@score To: GOTELLI@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Tue 7 Jul 87 13:49:51-PDT.]

Fine. Have you or someone told Reynolds? -Les

PDheader:1987-07-07 14:15:00-07:00 744d1acb9fea7b167b419c439e7e6688 ∂07-Jul-87 1415 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU re: Reynolds@score Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 7 Jul 87 14:15:18 PDT Date: Tue 7 Jul 87 14:08:44-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: re: Reynolds@score To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Tue 7 Jul 87 14:06:00-PDT Message-ID: <12316542517.18.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

I haven't. Maybe Anne or Nils did. He has never communicated with me directly. Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-07-26 12:42:00-07:00 a0e02edfff4411174b7b902e12365ec8 ∂26-Jul-87 1242 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of June computer charges. Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 26 Jul 87 12:41:59 PDT Date: Sun 26 Jul 87 12:40:52-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of June computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12321507258.13.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for June. Account System Billed Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 58.95 79.65 149.55 3.06 2.50 293.71 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 29.48 39.82 74.77 1.52 1.25 146.84 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 29.48 39.82 74.77 1.52 1.25 146.84 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 .00 .00 .07 .00 5.00 5.07 les LABREA 1-DMA001 5.85 2.27 .80 .00 2.50 11.42 les LABREA 2-DMA705 2.92 1.14 .40 .00 1.25 5.71 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 2.92 1.14 .40 .00 1.25 5.71 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 10.37 3.88 .70 4.27 2.50 21.72 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 5.19 1.94 .35 2.14 1.25 10.87 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 5.19 1.94 .35 2.14 1.25 10.87 Total: 150.35 171.60 302.16 14.65 20.00 658.76 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Science Dept. Computer Facilities In future, each computer user will receive a monthly electronic statement summarizing their computer usage. This statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheets sent monthly to departments. Verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, please send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. This statement is sent to the preferred EMAIL address listed in the PEDIT database on SCORE. If no address is specified in PEDIT, this statement is sent one of the listed computer accounts. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1987-07-29 15:29:00-07:00 a71fcabe1306b502a76556e63310dce4 ∂29-Jul-87 1529 LES re: Summary of June computer charges. To: BEDIT@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU CC: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU [In reply to message sent Sun 26 Jul 87 12:40:52-PDT.]

I am pleased to see the email bills emerging. A couple of suggestions: 1. The part that shows the various university accounts that are being charged should also show the percentage allocation to each. 2. It usually pays to be very polite on bills. For example, instead of saying "Verify each month . . ." it would be a good idea to say "Please verify each month . . ." I agree that bills are not needed for Sushi. Les

PDheader:1987-07-29 15:52:00-07:00 391f0234fed616f23c6682ced0ad980b ∂29-Jul-87 1552 LES TeX maintenance account To: Gotelli@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, Rokicki@SUSHI.STANFORD.EDU

Please set up an overhead account for Rokicki@score to do TeX maintenance. Les

PDheader:1987-07-30 15:20:00-07:00 b12840f89f87c519f1840571b4785efa ∂30-Jul-87 1520 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: TeX maintenance account Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 30 Jul 87 15:20:09 PDT Date: Thu 30 Jul 87 15:16:40-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: TeX maintenance account To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU cc: gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU>" of Wed 29 Jul 87 15:52:00-PDT Message-ID: <12322584198.15.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

<rokicki@score> has been set up. We now have David Fuchs, Leslie Lamport, Oren Patashnik, and Tomas Rokicki all maintaining TeX. I don't know what John Hobby <JDH@Sail> maintains. Lynn -------

PDheader:1987-08-19 17:23:00-07:00 acd35157ea7067e5f27faf717e5a84d4 ∂19-Aug-87 1723 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of July computer charges. Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 19 Aug 87 17:23:38 PDT Date: Wed 19 Aug 87 17:18:34-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of July computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12327849269.8.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for July. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 50 74.59 109.60 150.53 2.25 2.50 339.47 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 25 37.30 54.80 75.26 1.12 1.25 169.73 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 25 37.30 54.80 75.26 1.12 1.25 169.73 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 100 .00 .00 .07 .00 5.00 5.07 les LABREA 1-DMA001 50 2.99 2.40 .81 .00 2.50 8.70 les LABREA 2-DMA705 25 1.50 1.19 .41 .00 1.25 4.35 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 1.50 1.19 .41 .00 1.25 4.35 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 6.01 .48 .61 1.93 2.50 11.53 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 3.01 .24 .31 .97 1.25 5.78 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 3.01 .24 .31 .97 1.25 5.78 Total: 167.21 224.94 303.98 8.36 20.00 724.49 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Science Dept. Computer Facilities In future, each computer user will receive a monthly electronic statement summarizing their computer usage. This statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheets sent monthly to departments. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Note: the "percent" column following the university budget account numbers indicates what percent of your computer charges were billed to that account. This statement is sent to the preferred EMAIL address listed in the PEDIT database on SCORE. If no address is specified in PEDIT, this statement is sent one of the listed computer accounts. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1987-08-20 07:30:00-07:00 518c08249316701be8777887a6814f8d ∂20-Aug-87 0730 @RELAY.CS.NET:golub@research.att.com Re: Summary of July computer charges. Received: from RELAY.CS.NET by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 20 Aug 87 07:30:05 PDT Received: from relay2.cs.net by RELAY.CS.NET id aa01024; 20 Aug 87 10:29 EDT Received: from btl by csnet-relay.csnet id al24555; 20 Aug 87 10:17 EDT To: les%sail.stanford.edu@RELAY.CS.NET From: golub%research.att.com@RELAY.CS.NET Date: Thu 20 Aug EDT 1987 09:52 Original-To: research!csnet!score.stanford.edu!BEDIT Subject: Re: Summary of July computer charges.

Cc: les@sail.stanford.edu Why the $5.00 surcharge. I can understand that there is a minimum charge but a surcharge shouldn't be necessary. Gene Golub

PDheader:1987-08-20 12:42:00-07:00 146d515c754eb0f746cfaea645a2738c ∂20-Aug-87 1242 LES re: Summary of July computer charges. To: golub%research.att.com@RELAY.CS.NET [In reply to message sent Thu 20 Aug EDT 1987 09:52.]

> Why the $5.00 surcharge. I can understand that there is a minimum charge but > a surcharge shouldn't be necessary. The goal is to have charges approximately model costs. The earlier assumption that the cost of providing service is strictly proportional to the amount of service used is substantially incorrect near the low end of the usage scale. For example, the cost of doing billing amounts to about $4.80 per month per account not including the computer time used. The $5.00/month account fee is, if anything, an undercharge. Les Earnest

PDheader:1987-09-02 22:00:00-07:00 d3a86726f7dc5ae030c3373662e2990c ∂02-Sep-87 2200 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of August computer charges. Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 2 Sep 87 22:00:04 PDT Date: Wed 2 Sep 87 22:00:19-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of August computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12331570575.9.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for August. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 50 109.97 134.94 154.31 5.53 2.50 407.25 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 25 54.99 67.47 77.16 2.76 1.25 203.63 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 25 54.99 67.47 77.16 2.76 1.25 203.63 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 100 .00 .00 .07 .00 5.00 5.07 les LABREA 1-DMA001 50 3.06 2.42 .81 .00 2.50 8.79 les LABREA 2-DMA705 25 1.53 1.20 .41 .00 1.25 4.39 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 1.53 1.20 .41 .00 1.25 4.39 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 42.71 1.58 .80 12.87 2.50 60.46 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 21.36 .79 .40 6.43 1.25 30.23 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 21.36 .79 .40 6.43 1.25 30.23 Total: 311.50 277.86 311.93 36.78 20.00 958.07 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Science Dept. Computer Facilities In future, each computer user will receive a monthly electronic statement summarizing their computer usage. This statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheets sent monthly to departments. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Note: the "percent" column following the university budget account numbers indicates what percent of your computer charges were billed to that account. This statement is sent to the preferred EMAIL address listed in the PEDIT database on SCORE. If no address is specified in PEDIT, this statement is sent one of the listed computer accounts. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1987-09-30 11:01:00-07:00 4d5d3e932ca5003a18a1d4147271f959 ∂30-Sep-87 1101 @score.stanford.edu:ball@navajo.stanford.edu CSD-CF RATES Received: from LABREA.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 30 Sep 87 11:00:57 PDT Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by labrea.stanford.edu with TCP; Wed, 30 Sep 87 10:42:18 PDT Received: from navajo.stanford.edu by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Wed 30 Sep 87 10:19:01-PDT Received: by navajo.stanford.edu; Wed, 30 Sep 87 10:15:51 PDT Date: Wed, 30 Sep 87 10:15:51 PDT From: James E. Ball <ball@navajo.stanford.edu> Subject: CSD-CF RATES To: CSD-LIST@score.stanford.edu

From ball Wed Sep 30 09:51:56 1987 Received: by navajo.stanford.edu; Wed, 30 Sep 87 09:51:51 PDT Date: Wed, 30 Sep 87 09:51:51 PDT From: James E. Ball <ball> Subject: rate memo To: ball@navajo Status: R To all concerned parties, As we started a new fiscal year on September 1st it was necessary to submit new rates for CSD-CF services. The attached are the rates submitted but not yet approved. I will inform you when the rates are approved. Jim Ball --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CSD-CF Rates Computer Science Department Computer Facility Cost Center Rates Effective September 1, 1987 A Time B Time C Time A Time B Time C Time Weekday hours 8:00-17:59 18:00-23:59 0:00-07:59 Weekend hours 13:00-17:59 18:00-12:59 Rates Full 2/3 of A rate 1/3 of A rate Score Computer (DEC20/TOPS20) Account chg per mo @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 2.35 1.57 0.78 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 2.11 Sail Computer (DEC10)/WAITS) Account chg per mo @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 3.98 2.65 1.32 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 3.75 Navajo Computer (VAX-780/UNIX) Account chg per mo @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 1.89 1.26 0.63 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 2.94 Labrea Computer (VAX-750/UNIX) Account chg per mo @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 1.53 1.02 0.51 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 0.47 Jeeves Fileserver (SUN-3/UNIX) Account chg per mo @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ CPU time Minutes @ Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 1.14 Sushi Computer (DEC20/TOPS20) Monthly charges Maint. & Depr. 8,420.00 Printers Dovers pages @ 0.09 Imagen/Apple pages @ 0.09 Boise pages @ 0.07 Phototypsetter Page charges @ 4.50 Ethernet Maintenance Monthly charges Workstations & Minis 33.00 Mainframes & Bridges 330.00 VAX-75- Computer Maint. Monthly charges Basic VAX-750 475.00 RA81 Disk Drive 100.00 Kennedy 9300 Tape 200.00 Fujitsu M2351 Disk 50.00 TU78 100.00 CDC 9766 Controller 100.00 Emulex SC758 66.00 8 line term MUX 16.00

PDheader:1987-10-13 10:55:00-07:00 decbee4ccdc34a08d4002b44b78fcf3e ∂13-Oct-87 1055 BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU [golub@golubsun.cs.umd.edu (Gene Golub): accounts] Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 13 Oct 87 10:54:54 PDT Date: Tue 13 Oct 87 10:53:42-PDT From: Betty Scott <BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: [golub@golubsun.cs.umd.edu (Gene Golub): accounts] To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12342197125.14.BSCOTT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

FYI. - Betty --------------- 1) 13-Oct golub@golubsun.cs.um accounts 2) 13-Oct Lynn Gotelli Re: accounts Message 1 -- ************************ Return-Path: <golub@golubsun.cs.umd.edu> Received: from mimsy.umd.edu by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Tue 13 Oct 87 08:49:37-PDT Received: from golubsun.cs.umd.edu by mimsy.umd.edu (5.58/4.7) id AA19455; Tue, 13 Oct 87 10:50:48 EST Received: by golubsun.cs.umd.edu (5.54/3.14) id AA11000; Tue, 13 Oct 87 10:49:07 EST Date: Tue, 13 Oct 87 10:49:07 EST From: golub@golubsun.cs.umd.edu (Gene Golub) Return-Path: <golub@golubsun.cs.umd.edu> Message-Id: <8710131549.AA11000@golubsun.cs.umd.edu> To: bscott@score.stanford.edu Subject: accounts Cc: gotelli@score.stanford.edu I continue to be overcharged for my computer accounts. The trouble seems to be that even after I ask that an account be closed for a visitor I am charged for disk space and this can be quite costly. I believe this may be another software error on Navajo. I don't keep records of my msgs to Lynn for the length of time that it seems to take to get the accounts dropped. Therefore, I shall refuse to sign any future statements and send a statement to the funding agency that I am being illegally charged. If you can find out what the difficulty is, I would be most appreciative. Gene Message 2 -- ************************ Mail-From: GOTELLI created at 13-Oct-87 10:10:35 Date: Tue 13 Oct 87 10:10:35-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: accounts To: golub@golubsun.cs.umd.edu cc: BScott@Score.Stanford.EDU, Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: <8710131549.AA11000@golubsun.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: <12342189276.26.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Gene, You are NOT overcharged for your computer accounts and certainly NOT charged for disk space once an account is closed. The accusation that you are being charged illegally is totally unfounded and preposterous. I have in front of me a copy of a message from you dated 8/11/87 where you instructed me to close 6 Score accounts and 2 Navajo accounts. I closed the accounts effective the date of your message and the last month you will see any charges related to these users will be for August. If you can provide me with a users name, proof of a message you sent me requesting an account be closed and subsequent charges I will be most happy to credit you for any charges that were billed after you requested a computer account be closed. Gene, I keep well documented, and accurate records, and have on paper backup documentation as to actions I have taken with regards to all computer accounts. This backup documentation is in binders on shelves in MJH040 and you as well as anyone else is invited to look at these records if there is ever any question regarding computer account billings. Respectfully, Lynn Gotelli ------- -------

PDheader:1987-10-14 17:58:00-07:00 e2bfecd56d40d989aea7c14e3d9dc938 ∂14-Oct-87 1758 ZM To: LMG@SAIL.Stanford.EDU, BS@SAIL.Stanford.EDU, LES@SAIL.Stanford.EDU

Lynn, As Betty probably already mentioned to you my computation statement for August contain several strange charges: 1. Rutie Adler stopped working for me mid-May and left the dept on July 1,87. I am charged 767.74 for Rutie. 2. I wonder who authorized you to charge me for: Afrati, Gelenbe, Haunga ($217.54), Kollias, Mitchell, Silverberg Sorry, but I really dont know them. 3. I also wonder who authorized you to charge me for Papadimitriou ($561.84). Thanks Zohar

PDheader:1987-10-21 15:26:00-07:00 6471b421e8c16b25fafee5e5484ca30e ∂21-Oct-87 1526 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of September computer charges. Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 21 Oct 87 15:26:32 PDT Date: Wed 21 Oct 87 15:18:54-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of September computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12344342554.46.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for September. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 50 81.65 100.61 168.72 2.61 2.50 356.09 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 25 40.82 50.31 84.36 1.30 1.25 178.04 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 25 40.82 50.31 84.36 1.30 1.25 178.04 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 100 .00 .00 .08 .00 5.00 5.08 les LABREA 1-DMA001 50 3.59 .23 .87 .00 2.50 7.19 les LABREA 2-DMA705 25 1.79 .11 .43 .00 1.25 3.58 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 1.79 .11 .43 .00 1.25 3.58 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 98.53 2.52 .68 15.75 2.50 119.98 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 49.27 1.26 .34 7.87 1.25 59.99 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 49.27 1.26 .34 7.87 1.25 59.99 Total: 367.53 206.72 340.61 36.70 20.00 971.56 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Science Dept. Computer Facilities The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet send monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1987-10-26 15:27:00-08:00 2984fe3a66f40073acddefdb22adfb1e ∂26-Oct-87 1527 LES What will happen once Sushi's gone? To: Reuling@Score.Stanford.EDU CC: Gotelli@Score.Stanford.EDU [In reply to message sent Fri 9 Oct 87 13:35:14-PDT.]

I would like to find a way to continue limited alumni accounts as "freebies," but it is not clear whether this will be possible. Nils is inclined to make it strictly on a fee-for-services basis. This likely will be taken up in the Facilities Committee. Les

PDheader:1987-11-20 14:24:00-08:00 25fd36bd99dd52baacba379f0d07a2d2 ∂20-Nov-87 1424 LES YOM@Sail To: Gotelli@SCORE.Stanford.EDU

Please close Yoram Moses's account (YOM@Sail) effective immediately.

PDheader:1987-12-28 12:47:00-08:00 509956a508bc8ccaa4a7255fc9595e6d ∂28-Dec-87 1247 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of October computer charges. Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 28 Dec 87 12:47:09 PST Date: Mon 28 Dec 87 12:44:30-PST From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of October computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12362151161.20.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for October. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 50 132.05 115.80 173.90 4.23 2.50 428.48 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 25 66.01 57.90 86.95 2.11 1.25 214.22 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 25 66.01 57.90 86.95 2.11 1.25 214.22 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 100 .00 .00 .08 .00 5.00 5.08 les LABREA 1-DMA001 50 1.22 .00 .87 .00 2.50 4.59 les LABREA 2-DMA705 25 .60 .00 .44 .00 1.25 2.29 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 .60 .00 .44 .00 1.25 2.29 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 13.82 1.06 .70 5.22 2.50 23.30 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 6.91 .53 .35 2.61 1.25 11.65 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 6.91 .53 .35 2.61 1.25 11.65 Total: 294.13 233.72 351.03 18.89 20.00 917.77 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Facilities The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1987-12-29 13:19:00-08:00 a34bee5ad17eb718ff0e0037116f5bbe ∂29-Dec-87 1319 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of October computer charges. Received: from SCORE.STANFORD.EDU by SAIL.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; 29 Dec 87 13:19:23 PST Date: Tue 29 Dec 87 13:15:24-PST From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of October computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12362418931.29.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Please DISREGARD the previous October charge summary. It was not complete (did not include refund information). Following is a summary of your computer charges for October. This report is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Note REFUNDS for NAVAJO and LABREA users. A billing error was made in September, and appropriate credits were applied to the October bills. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 50 132.05 115.80 173.90 4.23 2.50 428.48 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 25 66.01 57.90 86.95 2.11 1.25 214.22 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 25 66.01 57.90 86.95 2.11 1.25 214.22 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 100 .00 .00 .08 .00 5.00 5.08 les LABREA 1-DMA001 50 1.22 .00 .87 .00 2.50 4.59 REFUND LABREA 1-DMA001 50 -3.06 .00 .00 .00 .00 -3.06 les LABREA 2-DMA705 25 .60 .00 .44 .00 1.25 2.29 REFUND LABREA 2-DMA705 25 -1.53 .00 .00 .00 .00 -1.53 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 .60 .00 .44 .00 1.25 2.29 REFUND LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 -1.53 .00 .00 .00 .00 -1.53 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 13.82 1.06 .70 5.22 2.50 23.30 REFUND NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 -42.71 .00 .00 .00 .00 -42.71 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 6.91 .53 .35 2.61 1.25 11.65 REFUND NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 -21.36 .00 .00 .00 .00 -21.36 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 6.91 .53 .35 2.61 1.25 11.65 REFUND NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 -21.36 .00 .00 .00 .00 -21.36 Total: 202.58 233.72 351.03 18.89 20.00 826.22 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Facilities Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-01-19 15:32:00-08:00 247741faf2a9f98ab6203957e1fa60e1 ∂19-Jan-88 1532 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of November computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 19 Jan 88 15:32:40 PST Date: Tue 19 Jan 88 15:18:25-PST From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of November computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12367946350.20.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for November. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 1-DMA001 50 214.55 138.75 176.67 3.23 2.50 535.70 LES SAIL 2-DMA705 25 107.27 69.37 88.33 1.62 1.25 267.84 LES SAIL 2-DMA705T 25 107.27 69.37 88.33 1.62 1.25 267.84 LES SCORE 9-DMA078 100 .00 .00 .08 .00 5.00 5.08 les LABREA 1-DMA001 50 .00 .00 .88 .00 2.50 3.38 les LABREA 2-DMA705 25 .00 .00 .44 .00 1.25 1.69 les LABREA 2-DMA705T 25 .00 .00 .44 .00 1.25 1.69 les NAVAJO 1-DMA001 50 1.42 .10 .58 .54 2.50 5.14 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 25 .71 .05 .29 .27 1.25 2.57 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705T 25 .71 .05 .29 .27 1.25 2.57 Total: 431.93 277.69 356.33 7.55 20.00 1093.50 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 1-DMA001 Dept. Operating 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 9-DMA078 Computer Facilities The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-02-04 12:24:00-08:00 f5f28b14ea7f3630021cb701f6169260 ∂04-Feb-88 1224 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of December computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 4 Feb 88 12:23:55 PST Date: Thu 4 Feb 88 12:11:46-PST From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of December computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12372106674.11.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for December. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 423.49 212.34 357.07 7.29 5.00 1005.19 LES SCORE 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .08 .00 5.00 5.08 les LABREA 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 1.77 .00 5.00 6.77 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 100 8.51 .77 1.06 3.69 5.00 19.03 Total: 432.00 213.11 359.98 10.98 20.00 1036.07 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-02-25 15:16:00-08:00 18f9193e38b70d242c4cfac74a6b483b ∂25-Feb-88 1516 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of January computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 25 Feb 88 15:16:00 PST Date: Thu 25 Feb 88 15:04:34-PST From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of January computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12377643157.18.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for January. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 293.66 174.07 353.06 8.18 5.00 833.97 LES SCORE 2-DMA705 100 .48 .53 .08 .00 5.00 6.09 les LABREA 2-DMA705 100 .68 .13 .22 .00 5.00 6.03 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 100 8.65 .81 1.32 2.97 5.00 18.75 Total: 303.47 175.54 354.68 11.15 20.00 864.84 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-03-10 08:58:00-08:00 cc266590ab40baa31c9f584ab3862c3e ∂10-Mar-88 0858 @Score.Stanford.EDU:ball@navajo.stanford.edu Computer Facilities Rates Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 10 Mar 88 08:58:11 PST Received: from navajo.stanford.edu by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Thu 10 Mar 88 08:51:43-PST Received: by navajo.stanford.edu; Thu, 10 Mar 88 08:51:58 PST Date: Thu, 10 Mar 88 08:51:58 PST From: James E. Ball <ball@navajo.stanford.edu> Subject: Computer Facilities Rates To: Faculty@score.stanford.edu

Below are the rates which became effective on Feb 2nd. The new rate sheet was required to include POLYA. I held off publishing the sheet until a decision was reached on how POLYA charges for the users moving off SUSHI were to be handled. COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT COMPUTER FACILITIES SERVICE CENTER RATES EFFECTIVE 2/1/88 TIME WEEKDAY WEEKEND --------- --------- --------- "A" RATES = 100% 0000-0800 C C "B" RATES = 66.67% OF "A" RATE 0800-1300 A C "C" RATES = 33.33% OF "A" RATE 1300-1800 A B 1800-2400 B C -------TIME OF DAY RATES--------- "A" RATES "B" RATES "C" RATES FIXED RATES --------- --------- --------- ----------- Score Computer Account charge Accts @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 2.85 1.90 0.95 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 2.95 Sail Computer Account charge Accts @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 4.20 2.80 1.40 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 4.00 Navajo Computer Account charge Accts @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 1.89 1.26 0.63 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 2.94 Labrea Computer Account charge Accts @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 1.75 1.17 0.58 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 1.25 Jeeves Fileserver Account charge Accts @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 0.00 CPU time Minutes @ 0.00 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 2.10 Polya Account charge Accts @ 5.00 Connect time hours @ 1.00 0.67 0.33 CPU time Minutes @ 5.66 3.77 1.89 Disk space Mbits/Mo @ 2.00 Printers Dovers pages @ 0.09 Imagen/Apple pages @ 0.09 Boise pages @ 0.07 Phototypsetter Page charges @ 4.50 Ethernet Maintenance Monthly charges Workstations & Minis 33.00 Mainframes & Bridges 330.00 Sushi Computer Monthly charges Maint. & Depr. 8,708.86 VAX-75- Computer Maint. Monthly charges Basic VAX-750 475.00 RA81 Disk Drive 100.00 Kennedy 9300 Tape 200.00 Fujitsu M2351 Disk 50.00 TU78 100.00 CDC 9766 Controller 100.00 Emulex SC758 66.00 8 line term MUX 16.00

PDheader:1988-03-29 14:59:00-08:00 98674b380bda2069b1075861d9fe1274 ∂29-Mar-88 1459 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of February computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 29 Mar 88 14:59:24 PST Date: Tue 29 Mar 88 14:16:06-PST From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of February computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12386285086.9.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for February. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 252.74 189.60 366.58 9.72 5.00 823.64 LES SCORE 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .11 .00 5.00 5.11 les LABREA 2-DMA705 100 1.17 .01 .41 .00 5.00 6.59 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 100 11.03 1.08 1.61 7.83 5.00 26.55 Total: 264.94 190.69 368.71 17.55 20.00 861.89 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-05-07 18:44:00-07:00 4665cab5e61aaa357e667cbef03ad06a ∂07-May-88 1844 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of March computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 7 May 88 18:44:11 PDT Date: Sat 7 May 88 18:15:10-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of March computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12396541299.9.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for March. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 383.35 225.33 362.00 1.53 5.00 977.21 LES SCORE 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .11 .00 5.00 5.11 les LABREA 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .26 .00 5.00 5.26 les NAVAJO 2-DMA705 100 38.01 2.39 1.49 14.31 5.00 61.20 Total: 421.36 227.72 363.86 15.84 20.00 1048.78 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-05-18 12:19:00-07:00 be43029fe91a064fa4a077a492f20a3c ∂18-May-88 1219 GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU Re: Score and Labrea accounts Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 18 May 88 12:19:48 PDT Date: Wed 18 May 88 12:19:28-PDT From: Lynn Gotelli <GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Score and Labrea accounts To: LES@Sail.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: Message from "Les Earnest <LES@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>" of Tue 17 May 88 16:04:00-PDT Message-ID: <12399360131.39.GOTELLI@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I have closed out your Score and LaBrea computer accounts effective 5/15/88. Your Navajo account was closed 4/15/88 when Navajo was taken out of service. Thank you, Lynn -------

PDheader:1988-06-03 14:02:00-07:00 1d26ec1d619c8d256ea906e97c277200 ∂03-Jun-88 1402 JMC

You must reduce your computer charges to $100 per month - or pay.

PDheader:1988-06-03 14:21:00-07:00 5e4203d8f4eb066e1b4bc48a1f90f23c ∂03-Jun-88 1421 LES computer charges To: JMC [In reply to message rcvd 03-Jun-88 14:02-PT.]

I have reduced them to $0 for last month and, if I work fast enough, for this month as well -- trading work for computer time.

PDheader:1988-06-03 14:25:00-07:00 f62291fc79c81c237c3e49107c587ffb ∂03-Jun-88 1425 JMC re: computer charges [In reply to message rcvd 03-Jun-88 14:21-PT.]

That's fine. My info came from CHARGE.

PDheader:1988-06-23 23:15:00-07:00 877ec0dd3b12c3528516cffc8aa09f55 ∂23-Jun-88 2315 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of April computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 23 Jun 88 23:14:57 PDT Date: Thu 23 Jun 88 23:16:18-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of April computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12408916888.15.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for April. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 261.87 228.16 280.02 10.08 5.00 785.13 LES SCORE 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .11 .00 5.00 5.11 les LABREA 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .20 .00 5.00 5.20 Total: 261.87 228.16 280.33 10.08 15.00 795.44 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-06-23 23:54:00-07:00 72b7516ec927cdabb315f8724a953ab8 ∂23-Jun-88 2354 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of May computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 23 Jun 88 23:54:03 PDT Date: Thu 23 Jun 88 23:51:57-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of May computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12408923377.9.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Following is a summary of your computer charges for May. Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 227.38 234.24 276.04 4.77 5.00 747.43 LES SCORE 2-DMA705 100 .00 .00 .11 .00 5.00 5.11 les LABREA 2-DMA705 100 .59 .01 .11 .00 5.00 5.71 Total: 227.97 234.25 276.26 4.77 15.00 758.25 University budget accounts billed above include the following. Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. -------

PDheader:1988-07-12 15:17:00-07:00 96df70321fe5d836bdb7f1a350eadfd8 ∂12-Jul-88 1517 BERGMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU computer usage Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 12 Jul 88 15:17:08 PDT Date: Tue 12 Jul 88 15:16:46-PDT From: Sharon Bergman <BERGMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: computer usage To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12413810327.36.BERGMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Les, I have asked Lynn Gotelli to charge your computer usage to 1-DMA001 effective immediately. I need to check further with Nils about how long the operating budget should be charged and whether or not 1-2 past months expense can be transferred from McCarthy's contract to the operating budget. I will let you know what I find out. You also asked about Umbrella proposal instructions. I checked with Betty, and she said there is nothing written out. The format of the existing proposal should be followed. Back when Betty put together the first proposal, John Michado drew it out for her and explained what was needed. But there are no official instructions. Betty mentioned in particular that the general scope of work should be broad/comprehensive enough to allow all the tasks to fit under it. Do you need a copy of the current contract/proposal? -Sharon -------

PDheader:1988-07-20 20:45:00-07:00 6fc127b225495e99b80de0a8517cfcbc ∂20-Jul-88 2045 BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU Summary of June computer charges. Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 20 Jul 88 20:45:41 PDT Date: Wed 20 Jul 88 20:41:51-PDT From: Billing Editor <BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Summary of June computer charges. To: Les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12415966659.9.BEDIT@Score.Stanford.EDU>

PDheader:1988-07-25 10:22:00-07:00 dec1c2a328d588dba7df9876210bd6c8 ∂25-Jul-88 1022 BERGMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU your computer charges Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 25 Jul 88 10:21:56 PDT Date: Mon 25 Jul 88 10:21:00-PDT From: Sharon Bergman <BERGMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU> Subject: your computer charges To: les@Sail.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <12417164357.18.BERGMAN@Score.Stanford.EDU>

Dear Mr. Earnest, Les, I just talked to Nils about your computer usage. He said your usage can be charged to the department for the months of May, June, July, and August. At the end of August, I assume your account will have to be closed unless you make arrangements to have it continued past that time. Is this o.k. with you? -Sharon ------- Following is a summary of your computer charges for June.

PDheader:1988-10-07 13:02:00-07:00 95a44d50a713e2b2d5e3d5e370aaeaf4 ∂07-Oct-88 1302 @Score.Stanford.EDU:ball@polya.Stanford.EDU [ball@polya.Stanford.EDU: CSD-CF Rates for 1988-89] Received: from Score.Stanford.EDU by SAIL.Stanford.EDU with TCP; 7 Oct 88 13:01:55 PDT Received: from polya.Stanford.EDU by SCORE.STANFORD.EDU with TCP; Fri 7 Oct 88 12:58:09-PDT Received: by polya.Stanford.EDU (5.59/25-eef) id AA22040; Fri, 7 Oct 88 12:59:24 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Oct 88 12:59:24 PDT From: Jim Ball <ball@polya.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: <8810071959.AA22040@polya.Stanford.EDU> To: Faculty@Score Cc: Facil@Score Subject: [ball@polya.Stanford.EDU: CSD-CF Rates for 1988-89]

Account System Billed Pct Cpu Job Disk Print Adj Total LES SAIL 2-DMA705 100 369.37 206.28 276.15 33.66 5.00 890.46 A couple of typos were found in the attached memo. The rates for B & C time on both Labrea and Polya were incorrect. Total: 369.37 206.28 276.15 33.66 5.00 890.46 Sorry for the inconvenience. -Jim Ball University budget accounts billed above include the following. Return-Path: <@Score.Stanford.EDU:ball@polya.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 88 09:09:01 PDT From: Jim Ball <ball@polya.Stanford.EDU> To: Faculty@Score Cc: Facil@Score Subject: CSD-CF Rates for 1988-89 Account Principal Investigator Title 2-DMA705 McCarthy N00039-84-C-0211 The following rates have been sent to the controller's office for approval. Approval is expected and only minor adjustments may have to be made. I am sending them to you for planning purposes only. As soon as the approved rates are available they will be distributed. One major change is the job-time or connect time charge. Connect time was charged at $1.00 per hour for A time, it is now .10 per hour. Maintaining the connect time charge, even at a low level helps keep us focused on the fact that much of our attention, and time goes into the CSD network. Perhaps we can find a better way of measuring and charging for this resource in the future. CPU and Disk storage charges were adjusted to compensate for this change since they represent the real system resources being utilized. The preceding statement is a condensed version of the detailed summary sheet sent monthly to your department. Another change is the fact that printing charges had to be increased from .09 a page to .10 a page for laser printers and the Dover. Boise charges were increased from .07 to .09 per page. Please verify each month that the proper university budget accounts are paying for your computer usage. Please also check the list of account numbers below the numeric totals. If the organizations/people associated with that account number should NOT be paying for your computer time, send mail to BEDIT@SCORE. -Jim Ball Please direct questions/comments to BEDIT@SCORE. ------- COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT COMPUTER FACILITIES PROPOSED SERVICE CENTER RATES 9/1/88 TIME WEEKDAY WEEKEND --------- --------- --------- "A" RATES = 100% 0000-0800 C C "B" RATES = 66.67% * "A" RATE 0800-1300 A C "C" RATES = 33.33% * "A" RATE 1300-1800 A B 1800-2400 B C --------TIME OF DAY RATES--------- "A" "B" "C" Monthly ---- ---- ---- ----------- Score Account charge Accts 5.00 Connect time 0.10 0.07 0.03 CPU time Min. 4.25 2.83 1.42 Disk space Mbits/Mo 2.85 Sail Account charge Accts 5.00 Connect time 0.10 0.07 0.03 CPU time Min. 5.50 3.67 1.83 Disk space Mbits/Mo 2.75 Labrea Account charge Accts 5.00 Connect time 0.10 0.67 0.33 CPU time Min. 1.25 0.83 0.42 Disk space Mbits/Mo 1.35 Jeeves Account charge Accts 5.00 Disk space Mbits/Mo 1.08 Polya Account charge Accts 5.00 Connect time 0.10 0.67 0.33 CPU time Min. 3.00 2.00 1.00 Disk space Mbits/Mo 2.85 Printers Dovers pages 0.10 Imagen/Apple pages 0.10 Boise pages 0.09 Phototypesetter Page charges 4.50 Ethernet Maintenance Monthly charges Workstations & Minis 33.00 Mainframes & Bridges 330.00 VAX-750 Computer Maint. Monthly charges Basic VAX-750 475.00 RA81 Disk Drive 100.00 Kennedy 9300 Tape 200.00 Fujitsu M2351 Disk 50.00 TU78 100.00 CDC 9766 Controller 100.00 Emulex SC758 66.00 8 line term MUX 16.00